Curtis Yarvin and his Elves
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(08-06-2022, 06:03 PM)BillyONare Wrote: My personal observation as well as that of a few other people is that the most based people grew up in the suburbs (see Nick Fuentes) and that there is a flippening of libtard parents having based sons and rednecks having vile provincial Vaushish translings. There is something about conservatives that makes them fucking terrible parents, possibly some sort of faux tough guy masculinity, while libtards are merely bad parents. There also might be agricultural pollutants like atrazine at play in rural areas.

Excellent Post. This part in particular strikes me as very true. So many of my troon anthropology expeditions reveal that these HOI4 goth-chick programmer trannies came from midwestern military families or something like that. Weird hardline Christian sects are another common case.

Suburbs are basically labour-barracks for the disposessed nu-slave masses. Anybody sharp and with an intact soul who finds themselves in one will be very angry. Lots of energy there. True rural or out of the way living is a kind of slower and worse poison. Local cultural force is real enough for you to react against, but not strong or lively enough to really fulfill anybody halfway feeling or allow them to grow into a full and satisfying existence.

The rural world isn't meant to be a place of drive and individuality. It's meant to be conservative in the true sense of the word. How this is meant to shake out is that we get a plebs and patricians situation where we're all based and on the same page but we acknowledge that not everyone can or should live at the higher level of consciousness and individuality of the city.
Plebian was not originally a slur or a negative thing. These people were the strong backbone of society. They were free, men were sovereigns of their families, it all fit into the greater Roman picture of maximised freedom and prosperity through discipline and cooperation.

Moldbug's newer elf-piece has a decent part on what it means to be 'elf' as a state of mind. Basically someone with city-brain, living for self-actualisation or whatever you want to put it.
Society doesn't work if everyone wants that, and most people actually don't I believe. And of course if you're thinking about your proper place in the world you're not a pleb. Moldbug is right about that much.

White society broke because we got a whole load of people not cut out for it thinking in ideas that are above them, and they're now determined to give this to absolutely everybody.
Moldbug kind of acknowledges this but hardly touches the scope of the problem at all.

He says elves are good at finding elves in other populations and uplifting them to their proper place, but that's not what's happening at all.
What's happening is that all of the places in society that enable self-actualisation and the freedom to think higher and more deeply are monopolised by retarded spiritual mediocrities, and all of society's capacity to uplift and maintain more patricians is being burned out on overclock telling people who are outright spiritual serfs to think about their true identity until the age of 30 in "higher education". And while this is happening every other man with an IQ above 115 is becoming a burned out social reject because the "elf" system of uplift is not just passing over them or not embracing them, but explicitly FUCKING HATES THEM.

The fact that academics and whatever don't do much isn't really a problem. Most jobs are sinecures to some degree. Jobs are about maintaining society in a place that you like, and maintaining people you like at a level that keeps them quality people. Good jobs are not about merit, they're about maintaining high quality human capital. One of the greatest tricks of the modern age is the kikes convincing the masses they have to earn their jobs, and if the brown human refuse of the third world will do it for peanuts whitey just has to do "better".

There are only so many "elf" slots in society, and we've basically had all of them stolen and given to unworthies, who are now strip-mining society to create more and more slots to give to more and more unworthies while conspiring to kick out more and more worthies.

How I see it is that the whole point of even having a civilisation is to enable the naturally higher elements of humanity to strive for what they're built for. They built society because a lack of it chafes against them. They're the ones who organically reach and define these higher states of consciousness. The spiritual pioneers. There's always been this element that we could almost call indulgent in civilisation. It exists so that higher human elements can become more human. It exists for their (our) fulfillment.

This notion of higher consciousness trickling down through society could really have its own thread, but the part that's relevant here is that spiritual lessers eventually come to associate and attach prestige and status to these higher human yearnings and start to covet them as fetishes of power, and begin pursuing cargo cult imitations of human refinement out of petty plastic power-lust rather than the organic gratification of their souls/character.

This process has been going on for so long so effectively that Moldbug's "elves" as defined in his most recent piece, the true elves, are practically extinct. Brutalised fringe creatures bent to the slavery of their inferiors. Every ostensibly "elf" institution is run by degenerate soy-orcs with pointy ears glued onto their heads who put on an absurdly costly imitation of learning and cultivation because that's what they believe elite people (or elves) are meant to do. Nobody at the elite level of our society is actually a natural elite. They're all plastic. Their idea of culture is watching The Wire. Their idea of a wise learning experience is listening to Yuval Harari. Read any book by an American Elite written before 1945 and it's plain that this was an entirely different class of person, and that this class is *gone* in positions of real power and influence. The real elves, the ones whose natures effortlessly draw them towards higher and finer things, are no more as a coherent class with power. And the potential new elves, who *can* emerge from anywhere and everywhere, are kept broken, brutalised, and divided, mostly by the education system. The ostensibly "elf" system fishes for elves all the time, but only its own kind. The new fake elves. The first world education system is provincial hicklib freaks brutalising any bright spark who displays promise of character while uplifting, praising, and grooming fellow petty, power-lusting mediocrities like themselves, and filling their ideas with notions of importance and complexity of self-consciousness that they'll never be able to handle properly.



Sorry if this post reads a little disjointed. I started writing this somewhere else and then moved it here. Two sessions of thought in one post.
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(08-06-2022, 08:54 PM)Leverkühn Wrote:
(08-06-2022, 02:29 PM)Coyote Wrote: I'm sick of his, and everyone like him, and their sassy internet ramblings. He wants to think himself better than "some hick" because he has an email job? Fine, but the reality is something else.
I don't see why this claim would offend you. When have rural hicks ever been the driving forces in history? When have they ever been at the forefront of culture or society? Rural hicks, like the masses in general, have most often just been a force to be manipulated by richer and more powerful people. This is simply the truth, and there's thousands of years of history to back it up. Not to say a few geniuses can't come out of the sticks, it happens, and then they promptly leave for better pastures. The masses have their role in society as everyone does on the Great Chain, but there's no reason to think so highly of these people. They're largely less healthy, less educated, poorer, and in general less intelligent. That's the "reality" of the situation and any stats bear it out, not whatever shit you have floating up in your head.

Quote:You want to act like a tough guy, calling me a "nigger" well, I will give you every reasonable opportunity to prove how tough you are for real. Real life violence or shut the fuck up, choice is yours, sperg.
Also this is rather comical. You're the one sperging out and invoking 'VIOLENCE' because someone called you low-iq.

Ah, yes, the driving force of history; autistic rich tech nerds that have only existed as a class since the 1990s.  Let me stand back and marvel at the culture they hold in high regard.  Truly stunning.  No, for real man, all sarcasm aside what you have just said is one of the most shit-fuck retarded things I have ever read.

Has the irony dawned on you yet that you think you are the "driving force of history"  because you read pedantic yet somehow ill-informed 10,000 word substack articles and think it's a revolutionary act, yet are so much of a fucking coward you'd insult people on the internet but refuse to do so in real life?  Serious question.
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(08-13-2022, 03:32 PM)Coyote Wrote: Ah, yes, the driving force of history; autistic rich tech nerds that have only existed as a class since the 1990s.  Let me stand back and marvel at the culture they hold in high regard.  Truly stunning.  No, for real man, all sarcasm aside what you have just said is one of the most shit-fuck retarded things I have ever read.

Has the irony dawned on you yet that you think you are the "driving force of history"  because you read pedantic yet somehow ill-informed 10,000 word substack articles and think it's a revolutionary act, yet are so much of a fucking coward you'd insult people on the internet but refuse to do so in real life?  Serious question.

Never understood how one is cowardly for saying things under certain circumstances and not others. Irl isn't this pure Conan the Barbarian arena in which spirits bare themselves against the forces of the world. We're still constantly mediated by cops, justice systems, other people. The last time force ran this pure and free in the world I'm pretty sure the nerdy cavemen genocided the bigger ones. Something to think about.
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(08-13-2022, 03:32 PM)Coyote Wrote: No, for real man, all sarcasm aside what you have just said is one of the most shit-fuck retarded things I have ever read.
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(08-13-2022, 03:32 PM)Coyote Wrote: Ah, yes, the driving force of history; autistic rich tech nerds that have only existed as a class since the 1990s.  Let me stand back and marvel at the culture they hold in high regard.  Truly stunning.  No, for real man, all sarcasm aside what you have just said is one of the most shit-fuck retarded things I have ever read.

Has the irony dawned on you yet that you think you are the "driving force of history"  because you read pedantic yet somehow ill-informed 10,000 word substack articles and think it's a revolutionary act, yet are so much of a fucking coward you'd insult people on the internet but refuse to do so in real life?  Serious question.

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(08-06-2022, 02:29 PM)Coyote Wrote: I'm sick of his, and everyone like him, and their sassy internet ramblings.  He wants to think himself better than "some hick" because he has an email job?  Fine, but the reality is something else.  I'm not here to "argue" with anyone.  I'm not here to convince anyone of anything.  As I said before, this isn't twitter.  You want to act like a tough guy, calling me a "nigger" well, I will give you every reasonable opportunity to prove how tough you are for real.  Real life violence or shut the fuck up, choice is yours, sperg.

Getting back to the substance of the matter; so tell me, how many wars have been won by 21st century technocrats and their personal bodyguards?  How many have been won by heavily armed men fighting for their race?  Do you get what I'm driving at here?  Not exactly much good their bodyguards or money are going to do them when millions of angry "rednecks" are storming their mansions to cut off their family's heads.

The fallacy you are making here is to presume there can ever be a conflict between "heavily armed men" and "those at the top". Heavily armed men always have leaders, and such leaders are leaders because they have superior leadership traits. How many wars have been won by heavily armed men? All of them. How many wars have been won by those at the top? All of them. Wars are always a coordinated effort between them. Even those, say French revolutionaries or NSDAP, who LARP as "movements of common men", are always led by elites, who certainly do not become elites by being the same as their inferiors.

I actually only came here to say that you are retarded and to piss you off. Nobody here seems to respect you. This is not an arbitrary coincidence, but because you are inferior at reasoning. You are also inferior at emotional regulation. You are also dishonest in a way that may not be perceptible to you, as when you say "I'm not here to argue or convince anyone of anything". I don't know you, but I know these things about you, because you are not even capable of handling an internet forum discussion without looking like a fool.

You seem eager to prove your superiority, despite it not really being relevant to the topic. To some random guys online. Yes, you can possible do violence to us. Personal capacity to violence is actually not an elite leadership quality, except in small organizations such as gangs. This is because it is impossible to physically overpower more than a few men at once. Realistically, more than just one or two. So, to project power to many men, as elites do, other qualities are required. These are qualities like intelligence, justice, charm, eloquence, knowledge, decorum, etc., which are not possessed by these "rednecks" you mention.

You have entered into this discussion with your poor reasoning as a result of feeling personally attacked by the points made hitherto, as you yourself are one of these "rednecks". Please continue to shovel dirt or whatever you do and await our orders.
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Pretty exciting stuff, Moldbug is suddenly respectable enough for Young Turks after writing his post advocating the Right NOT push their advantage in the courts, and the Dobbs decision was a mistake.
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(08-23-2022, 04:37 PM)Nathan J Robinson Wrote: [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc9AOUJVPRk]


Pretty exciting stuff, Moldbug is suddenly respectable enough for Young Turks after writing his post advocating the Right NOT push their advantage in the courts, and the Dobbs decision was a mistake.
Incredible. Just want to timestamp this particular part here where Cenk scoffs at the idea that the civil service or academia have any power: "they have almost no power AT ALL." Instead, he can only see the power coming from "the donors," the ones with the money. It seems totally beyond him that ideas have power; he never stops to ask why corporations how to cowtow to leftist sacred cows and all have DEI programs now. If Cenk thinks it's only the people with money who have power, why are they giving into ideas that lower efficiency, and cut into their budget? No money is being made by paying some Robin DeAngelo types to lecture their workers about Whiteness, and yet numerous corporations do just this...it all goes right over his dumb little head.
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(08-23-2022, 10:49 PM)Leverkühn Wrote: Incredible. Just want to timestamp this particular part here where Cenk scoffs at the idea that the civil service or academia have any power: "they have almost no power AT ALL." Instead, he can only see the power coming from "the donors," the ones with the money. It seems totally beyond him that ideas have power; he never stops to ask why corporations how to cowtow to leftist sacred cows and all have DEI programs now. If Cenk thinks it's only the people with money who have power, why are they giving into ideas that lower efficiency, and cut into their budget? No money is being made by paying some Robin DeAngelo types to lecture their workers about Whiteness, and yet numerous corporations do just this...it all goes right over his dumb little head.

I like comments, and often just use them to figure what's going in a video I can't be bothered watching. In Yarvin's recent bigger media talks there's an interesting split between people who knew about him before who think he's becoming a disappointing softer edged boring faggot, and people just seeing him for the first time who are generally responding with "gross, who is this insane NERD who thinks TALKING MORE makes him SMART?"

You can't reach these people, and he's alienating the only people who could ever truly be on his wavelength. And the compromise position of the de vere ball crowd is simply revolting.
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(08-23-2022, 11:13 PM)anthony Wrote: people just seeing him for the first time who are generally responding with "gross, who is this insane NERD who thinks TALKING MORE makes him SMART?"

Normie-leftoids have this instinctive aversion to the idea that anyone could truly know anything without some appeal to academic authority; the prospect of true contention in the world they find existentially terrifying. The obligatory rattling-off of Marx / Foucault / Fanon in an opinion piece must give them the same reassuring sense of safety as a health inspection certificate in a fast-food restaurant.
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"old heads know"
#33
(08-13-2022, 09:51 PM)anthony Wrote:
(08-13-2022, 03:32 PM)Coyote Wrote: Ah, yes, the driving force of history; autistic rich tech nerds that have only existed as a class since the 1990s.  Let me stand back and marvel at the culture they hold in high regard.  Truly stunning.  No, for real man, all sarcasm aside what you have just said is one of the most shit-fuck retarded things I have ever read.

Has the irony dawned on you yet that you think you are the "driving force of history"  because you read pedantic yet somehow ill-informed 10,000 word substack articles and think it's a revolutionary act, yet are so much of a fucking coward you'd insult people on the internet but refuse to do so in real life?  Serious question.

Never understood how one is cowardly for saying things under certain circumstances and not others. Irl isn't this pure Conan the Barbarian arena in which spirits bare themselves against the forces of the world. We're still constantly mediated by cops, justice systems, other people. The last time force ran this pure and free in the world I'm pretty sure the nerdy cavemen genocided the bigger ones. Something to think about.

This is the most spiritually jewish thing I have read on this forum.

(08-21-2022, 09:09 PM)The_Author Wrote:
(08-06-2022, 02:29 PM)Coyote Wrote: I'm sick of his, and everyone like him, and their sassy internet ramblings.  He wants to think himself better than "some hick" because he has an email job?  Fine, but the reality is something else.  I'm not here to "argue" with anyone.  I'm not here to convince anyone of anything.  As I said before, this isn't twitter.  You want to act like a tough guy, calling me a "nigger" well, I will give you every reasonable opportunity to prove how tough you are for real.  Real life violence or shut the fuck up, choice is yours, sperg.

Getting back to the substance of the matter; so tell me, how many wars have been won by 21st century technocrats and their personal bodyguards?  How many have been won by heavily armed men fighting for their race?  Do you get what I'm driving at here?  Not exactly much good their bodyguards or money are going to do them when millions of angry "rednecks" are storming their mansions to cut off their family's heads.

The fallacy you are making here is to presume there can ever be a conflict between "heavily armed men" and "those at the top". Heavily armed men always have leaders, and such leaders are leaders because they have superior leadership traits. How many wars have been won by heavily armed men? All of them. How many wars have been won by those at the top? All of them. Wars are always a coordinated effort between them. Even those, say French revolutionaries or NSDAP, who LARP as "movements of common men", are always led by elites, who certainly do not become elites by being the same as their inferiors.

I actually only came here to say that you are retarded and to piss you off. Nobody here seems to respect you. This is not an arbitrary coincidence, but because you are inferior at reasoning. You are also inferior at emotional regulation. You are also dishonest in a way that may not be perceptible to you, as when you say "I'm not here to argue or convince anyone of anything". I don't know you, but I know these things about you, because you are not even capable of handling an internet forum discussion without looking like a fool.

You seem eager to prove your superiority, despite it not really being relevant to the topic. To some random guys online. Yes, you can possible do violence to us. Personal capacity to violence is actually not an elite leadership quality, except in small organizations such as gangs. This is because it is impossible to physically overpower more than a few men at once. Realistically, more than just one or two. So, to project power to many men, as elites do, other qualities are required. These are qualities like intelligence, justice, charm, eloquence, knowledge, decorum, etc., which are not possessed by these "rednecks" you mention.

You have entered into this discussion with your poor reasoning as a result of feeling personally attacked by the points made hitherto, as you yourself are one of these "rednecks". Please continue to shovel dirt or whatever you do and await our orders.

Since when have "leaders" been "weaking computer programmers"? Serious question.

These "leaders" inspire nothing whatsoever in the heavily armed men. That's the fucking point. You're drawn to this every other long winded autistic shithead is, because another long winded autistic shithead told you that you're the REAL power, and being the weakling that you are, it gives you a sense of satisfaction.

As for everything else you said, I can't help but imagine what your skull would look like bouncing off some concrete. I'll tell you what I've told every other living room gangster here; say it to me IRL, watch how many teeth you go home with.

You're weakling faggots, yet you presume to command the power of men who aren't. Because another weakling faggot told you that you're the popular kids now. How are you guys not getting this?
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(08-28-2022, 03:12 PM)Coyote Wrote: This is the most spiritually jewish thing I have read on this forum.

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Quote:Since when have "leaders" been "weaking computer programmers"?

Does this not resemble Napoleon or any other great leaders? It seems a truism that leaders tend to have analytical and strategic talents. My impression of 14th to 19th century Europe is that accurate and precise bookkeeping and efficient systems were recognized as an important masculine virtue, critical to both martial and mercantile enterprise. Maybe you think a 13th century society could beat those cucks.
#35
(08-28-2022, 03:12 PM)Coyote Wrote:
(08-13-2022, 09:51 PM)anthony Wrote:
(08-13-2022, 03:32 PM)Coyote Wrote: Ah, yes, the driving force of history; autistic rich tech nerds that have only existed as a class since the 1990s.  Let me stand back and marvel at the culture they hold in high regard.  Truly stunning.  No, for real man, all sarcasm aside what you have just said is one of the most shit-fuck retarded things I have ever read.

Has the irony dawned on you yet that you think you are the "driving force of history"  because you read pedantic yet somehow ill-informed 10,000 word substack articles and think it's a revolutionary act, yet are so much of a fucking coward you'd insult people on the internet but refuse to do so in real life?  Serious question.

Never understood how one is cowardly for saying things under certain circumstances and not others. Irl isn't this pure Conan the Barbarian arena in which spirits bare themselves against the forces of the world. We're still constantly mediated by cops, justice systems, other people. The last time force ran this pure and free in the world I'm pretty sure the nerdy cavemen genocided the bigger ones. Something to think about.

This is the most spiritually jewish thing I have read on this forum.

(08-21-2022, 09:09 PM)The_Author Wrote:
(08-06-2022, 02:29 PM)Coyote Wrote: I'm sick of his, and everyone like him, and their sassy internet ramblings.  He wants to think himself better than "some hick" because he has an email job?  Fine, but the reality is something else.  I'm not here to "argue" with anyone.  I'm not here to convince anyone of anything.  As I said before, this isn't twitter.  You want to act like a tough guy, calling me a "nigger" well, I will give you every reasonable opportunity to prove how tough you are for real.  Real life violence or shut the fuck up, choice is yours, sperg.

Getting back to the substance of the matter; so tell me, how many wars have been won by 21st century technocrats and their personal bodyguards?  How many have been won by heavily armed men fighting for their race?  Do you get what I'm driving at here?  Not exactly much good their bodyguards or money are going to do them when millions of angry "rednecks" are storming their mansions to cut off their family's heads.

The fallacy you are making here is to presume there can ever be a conflict between "heavily armed men" and "those at the top". Heavily armed men always have leaders, and such leaders are leaders because they have superior leadership traits. How many wars have been won by heavily armed men? All of them. How many wars have been won by those at the top? All of them. Wars are always a coordinated effort between them. Even those, say French revolutionaries or NSDAP, who LARP as "movements of common men", are always led by elites, who certainly do not become elites by being the same as their inferiors.

I actually only came here to say that you are retarded and to piss you off. Nobody here seems to respect you. This is not an arbitrary coincidence, but because you are inferior at reasoning. You are also inferior at emotional regulation. You are also dishonest in a way that may not be perceptible to you, as when you say "I'm not here to argue or convince anyone of anything". I don't know you, but I know these things about you, because you are not even capable of handling an internet forum discussion without looking like a fool.

You seem eager to prove your superiority, despite it not really being relevant to the topic. To some random guys online. Yes, you can possible do violence to us. Personal capacity to violence is actually not an elite leadership quality, except in small organizations such as gangs. This is because it is impossible to physically overpower more than a few men at once. Realistically, more than just one or two. So, to project power to many men, as elites do, other qualities are required. These are qualities like intelligence, justice, charm, eloquence, knowledge, decorum, etc., which are not possessed by these "rednecks" you mention.

You have entered into this discussion with your poor reasoning as a result of feeling personally attacked by the points made hitherto, as you yourself are one of these "rednecks". Please continue to shovel dirt or whatever you do and await our orders.

Since when have "leaders" been "weaking computer programmers"?  Serious question.

These "leaders" inspire nothing whatsoever in the heavily armed men.  That's the fucking point.  You're drawn to this every other long winded autistic shithead is, because another long winded autistic shithead told you that you're the REAL power, and being the weakling that you are, it gives you a sense of satisfaction.

As for everything else you said, I can't help but imagine what your skull would look like bouncing off some concrete.  I'll tell you what I've told every other living room gangster here; say it to me IRL, watch how many teeth you go home with. 

You're weakling faggots, yet you presume to command the power of men who aren't.  Because another weakling faggot told you that you're the popular kids now.  How are you guys not getting this?

How does a nigger wannabe like you even find a forum like this? You do realize the point of forums is to have intellectual discussions, not prove your physical might. Go back to 4troon.
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(08-28-2022, 03:12 PM)Coyote Wrote: As for everything else you said, I can't help but imagine what your skull would look like bouncing off some concrete.  I'll tell you what I've told every other living room gangster here; say it to me IRL, watch how many teeth you go home with. 

You're weakling faggots, yet you presume to command the power of men who aren't.  Because another weakling faggot told you that you're the popular kids now.  How are you guys not getting this?

Alright motherfucker, let me set you straight right now. You think you're some tough guy, you can win this argument by threatening to smash my teeth out. Big strong man that you are, of course you would say that. Of course you would maintain physical might to be the most important determinant of dominance.

But did you know that I am BETTER AT WOODWORKING than you? That's right. I carve. I paint. I source the proper materials. I drill. I saw. I sand. I hammer. Next time you wanna approach me with this "points" of yours, why don't you do it at my workshop? We'll see how many fucking balsa wood toy airplanes you can make. Zero.

What does woodworking have to do with social dominance? Nothing. What does physical power have to do with social dominance? Something, in prison or with your wife or whatever. What does physical power have to do with high level social dominance, the management of companies, societies, nations, armies? Nothing, it is insufficient for the task. You are the guy who makes up the society, nation, army, who takes orders to exert the meager influence that is afforded to him by physical power, to exert that power over one or two other people at a time on behalf of someone else. You are not, merely by being strong or niggardly or whatever, able to influence the destinies of millions of people. With what? Your fists? Are you retarded?

Peter Thiel has Coyote hauled in by his stooges to drink his blood.

Coyote: I COULD SMASH UR TEETH OUT IN A HYPOTHETICAL ONE ON ONE FIGHT IN A HYPOTHETICAL WORLD OF STOOGE-CLASS-SOLIDARITY.

Gets sucked dry. Should've been a stooge.
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(08-28-2022, 03:12 PM)Coyote Wrote: Since when have "leaders" been "weaking computer programmers"?  Serious question.

These "leaders" inspire nothing whatsoever in the heavily armed men.  That's the fucking point.  You're drawn to this every other long winded autistic shithead is, because another long winded autistic shithead told you that you're the REAL power, and being the weakling that you are, it gives you a sense of satisfaction.

If you're being literal, "weakling computer programmers" have yet to be leaders of countries. But if you just mean well-educated people of questionable physical prowess, then I think that's pretty obviously been the norm for almost half a millennium now, and there are tons of examples you can pick from earlier in history as well. Warrior-Kings thrive in less developed societies or times of crisis, take the Khans for example, or Robert Guiscard. But it turns out that physical prowess and martial ability don't matter as much when it comes to governing and administrating a state. It doesn't help you pass efficient laws, adjudicate disputes between allies (or enemies), and it also doesn't amount to much when it comes to matters of subterfuge. History is full of brawny kings who are outsmarted and killed off by "weaklings" with wit. As much is it might pain you, even these brawny kings were far from being the dipshit hicks you're so upset about us insulting. The medieval parallel to rural hicks in American isn't a strong leader like Robert Guiscard or Charles Martel. The proper parallel would be PEASANT FARMERS. Now how many PEASANT FARMERS ever did anything important on a world-historical scale? Far fewer than the educated, weakling nerd type you show so much resentment towards. So it appears this people really are superior.

As for 'leaders inspiring prowess in the heavily armed men,' have leaders of the past 500 years not sent millions of men to their deaths to fight in wars whose victory might not actually benefit them? Queen Elizabeth I was a woman, any man in the Kingdom could have beaten the shit out of her and raped her to death, but this had little to no impact on her reign, because it's the prestige of the office that mattered more than the individual occupying it. When people attended to Louis XIV's orders, was it because he himself was some domineering character than demanded respect in virtue of his individual characteristics? NO! He was attended to because he was the King of France. I see nothing personally inspiring about George W. Bush, most people don't either. But that didn't stop him from being able to deploy hundreds of thousand of troops across the Middle East in America's 'War on Terror.' Likewise I don't find Jeff Bezos inspiring, neither do you, but he's nonetheless able to run a company where everyone follows whatever orders he gives. Sure, someone could revolt, chop off his head or whatever, any employee could have done this, or organized a group of employees to do so, this is the sort of thing Marxists salivate over: nonetheless, no such thing has occurred. Your fantasies just sound like a right wing hick's version of Marxist fantasies where the proles rise up and guillotine their wealthy bourgeois oppressors. I'll let you in on a little secret, THO: The Proletarians, or Rural Masses (in your case), are never actually the ones calling the shots; they are never the ones who end up in power. Crack open a history book for once and this will become painfully obvious.

(08-28-2022, 03:37 PM)BillyONare Wrote: Does this not resemble Napoleon or any other great leaders? It seems a truism that leaders tend to have analytical and strategic talents. My impression of 14th to 19th century Europe is that accurate and precise bookkeeping and efficient systems were recognized as an important masculine virtue, critical to both martial and mercantile enterprise. Maybe you think a 13th century society could beat those cucks.

Napoleon is an interesting figure to look at because he has come to be respected as not only a great military tactician, but a decently effective administrator as well (and of course he only became the latter because of the former). He's a leader who did inspire the men around him, as the tale of his return to France after his first defeat shows
Quote:Napoleon stepped out in front of them, ripped open his coat and said "If any of you will shoot his Emperor, here I am." The men joined his cause
So how did he become so beloved by his men? Certainly in wasn't because he was jacked and could kick people's asses. Ultimately, Napoleon came to command respect simply because he won battles, he was a successful commander. People who succeed command respect, regardless of any other factors. And he became a successful tactician because, like you said, he had great analytical skills, and he studied military strategy. Napoleon in a sense was a nerd, it was just in a field readily applicable to the field of battle.
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Guys I found Coyote: https://youtu.be/K4nLNFUwX-s
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(08-03-2022, 06:26 PM)BillyONare Wrote: found only in members of this forum, Insomnia, and some NRx men.

Insomnia? Whats this a reference to?
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(09-08-2022, 01:20 AM)Milk Wrote:
(08-03-2022, 06:26 PM)BillyONare Wrote: found only in members of this forum, Insomnia, and some NRx men.

Insomnia? Whats this a reference to?

Icycalm's website/community. His writing is a scattered mess to find and read, but a very sharp and entertaining character.


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