The Path to Ultimate Power: How Do We Win?

[Guest]

The system is well entrenched.the only way is by destroying from the outside which requires allyng with Russia and China and destroying america and causing a societal collapse.

If one has to align themselves with Oriental Communists to dismantle the American Empire, of what use was it to dismantle the American Empire?

Russia is not communist and all the degeneracy/wokeism come from western institutions/governments/ngos/media not from the east.

[Datacop]

Russia is not communist and all the degeneracy/wokeism come from western institutions/governments/ngos/media not from the east.

Not what I asked. If the point of Winning is to remove minorities and leftoids from power, of what utility is there in aligning oneself with Oriental Communists?

[Guest]

Russia is not communist and all the degeneracy/wokeism come from western institutions/governments/ngos/media not from the east.

Not what I asked. If the point of Winning is to remove minorities and leftoids from power, of what utility is there in aligning oneself with Oriental Communists?

if a keyed party comes to power in Western Europe and tries to remove leftist and non whites,the U.S government/nato and liberals will oppose it (as it happened with Serbia during the balkan wars) or there's a civil war in the western world,you'll need some ally that supply you with weapons,intelligence,training or soldiers.

Hitler allied with the soviet union and the japanese empire because western hostility made him to .

[Datacop]

if a keyed party comes to power in Western Europe and tries to remove leftist and non whites,the U.S government/nato and liberals will oppose it (as it happened with Serbia during the balkan wars) or there's a civil war in the western world,you'll need some ally that supply you with weapons,intelligence,training or soldiers.

Hitler allied with the soviet union and the japanese empire because western hostility made him to .

Is the Chinese system not entrenched too? The Chinese do not give support for nothing. A Chinese Global Order would be worse than the current order for the same reasons that being an American is still preferable to being Chinese.

A temporary non-aggression pact does not an alliance make. Hitler invaded the USSR & then killed 1/5th of its population and allied with the Japanese because they're ARYAN, retard.

[Verl]

Anyone suggesting that China, which is disappointment to even Milton's Pandaemonium, can be considered a 'friend' should return himself to a hermit haven and meditate on his mind's state.

[rockies]

Using China as a boogeyman to scare a certain sector of brain-dead, sclerotic U.S. senator has some promise. Actually co-operating with the bugmen is a losing proposition.

[Guest]

Anyone who isn't considering an alliance with Russia and China is a soy slurping bug. Nobody won anything through "anonymous Internet activism", they won it through control of the institutions in charge of finance, politics, and military. You think you can tear down those institutions in the west by just sitting around being edgy? No, it's going to require power and influence of your own, and the quickest ticket is a strategic partnership with these "orientals". It's what the Islamists do, and I'd say Hitler's spirit is moreso carried forward from his time by them than pseudo-intellectual ostensibly pro-Zionist Twitter accounts.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

It's what the Islamists do

When one think parties in league with the side of radicalism in general I don't believe either of member of the multi polarity detail has ever done so, their track record is supporting any tribal tepid leftist or center right movement in order that such groups might ease off the pressure of America and its friends in whatever theater they want control over. When it comes to radical anti modern movements such as Islamism the response of either nation has been the same as the US DoD it must be wiped out. With the movements that dare challenge the ruling regimes of pensioners inside their countries  suffering greatly.





I don't know where this idea that Russia or China are some ideal partners we already have a case study of what the current government of both do when there is a movement struggling against a western backed foe who is white in the conflict in the Donbas at the moment-Russia uses the region as cannon fodder has no beliefs or plan about it beyond boomer incoherence and graft and the Chinese sagely nod its the Americans fault while nary lifting a finger to help their alleged partner in crime. In reality baring national parxoy conflicts every radical movement now has to draw on nations within nations and parasitism on the ruling government(Ie traitors, officials willing to sell out etc) along with networks of all kinds-esp since the end of the cold war. Outside help has been rarely forthcoming and often overblown by those outside and within in positive and negative ways.

[GraphWalkWithMe]

Anyone who isn't considering an alliance with Russia and China is a soy slurping bug.

China is THE arch antpile nation. Any further extension of their power will just see the further depreciation of all life across the globe.

The Han are probably the lowest quality human stock on the planet, phenomena like their glomming towards sub-animal living standards[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmTGK1Mt0Eg][/url] and actively neglecting their children as they're being repeatedly ran over by trucks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XDP1HD7fc4) should make this clear.

[Guest]

“Brooooos, I just got a letter from the Russo-Sino alliance in my mailbox. They were asking me if I wanted to join their Anti-ZOG Axis, Should I do it Bros? I heard you couldn’t ally with the European Meritocracies in the future if you took the Russo-Sino route early on, but isn’t the Russo-Sino alliance the “Quickest Ticket” for the early game? I don’t know what to do Bros, Help me out.”

[NuclearAbsolutist]

They were asking me if I wanted to join their Anti-ZOG Axis

Clever of you to name drop meritocracy, you are aware of the author of that belief systems volumes of writing about China and Russia have no such thing formed and in fact are beholden to the elders-if not more so? Let me spell out my view which is based on such writers and many others both those nations amount to one count who dislikes another count but neither wish to destroy the legal and social system that makes them counts. We do wish such destruction and ergo their bouts & grand chess play is not important outside how it can hopefully cause a artery of theirs to be nicked.

[Guest]

Clever of you to name drop meritocracy, you are aware of the author of that belief systems volumes of writing about China and Russia have no such thing formed and in fact are beholden to the elders-if not more so? Let me spell out my view which is based on such writers and many others both those nations amount to one count who dislikes another count but neither wish to destroy the legal and social system that makes them counts. We do wish such destruction and ergo their bouts & grand chess play is not important outside how it can hopefully cause a artery of theirs to be nicked.

“Bro I get it now, I just said [NO] to the Russo-Sino alliance invite. If I want to win and beat ZOG I’ll have to only align myself with the forces that also want to usurp the legal and social systems of ZOG, which means only other Revolutionary Groups and States. thanks for helping me bro.”

[a system is failing]

Anyone who isn't considering an alliance with Russia and China is a soy slurping bug. Nobody won anything through "anonymous Internet activism", they won it through control of the institutions in charge of finance, politics, and military. You think you can tear down those institutions in the west by just sitting around being edgy? No, it's going to require power and influence of your own, and the quickest ticket is a strategic partnership with these "orientals". It's what the Islamists do, and I'd say Hitler's spirit is moreso carried forward from his time by them than pseudo-intellectual ostensibly pro-Zionist Twitter accounts.

Go ahead. Be sure to report back with your successful results.

[Guest]

My earlier post was a bit hasty. Obviously, none of you here are ever going to see it my way. You lack the proper motivation, you are not willing to move up in the world and forward in history. I just say what I say because there's a sliver of a chance that someone somewhere out there really understands what I mean and can feel my ideas piercing straight into their heart and soul. I first became a dissident as a kid simply because I felt disenfranchised and tossed aside by society. Powerless, helpless, doomed to meaningless slavery. But that's not the right mindset at all. That's how you get jokes like NJP and Nick Fuentes and all these other laughing stocks. The correct mindset is to see through it all. Through the past, present, and future. Not letting your mind or spirit be caged by worldly circumstances and authorities. You must hone your willpower and dedicate it towards the highest purpose, Liberation. You got me, I'm not like you or really anyone. I'm not on the left or right, progressive or traditional, Christian or Satanist. I'm willing to "settle" for Russia and China because their resources are absolutely necessary in this struggle. Imagine a world where there is no "multipolar" nation, no alternative idea, just this blob of democratic liberal globalist capitalism. That's the world westerners live in. But it doesn't have to be. It simply doesn't matter what one's personal opinion of Russia and China is from facts-based research or what have you. All that matters is the destruction of the machine. Hail Victory.

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Go ahead. Be sure to report back with your successful results.

Report back what? That my militia had secured an arms deal? That I was assigned a role in the Russian intelligence community? You don't understand because you're stuck in the world of memes and Internet personalities, vague childish fantasies shielded from real world consequences. I know it's an antifa talking point to say "rich that the people 'speaking the truth' hide behind masks", but you never really know what you're getting yourself into until it's your neck on the chopping block. Suddenly deradicalizing and becoming a neocon seems a lot more attractive, but you already lost that opportunity and ruined your life because you were a hothead. It's easy for someone who has never faced that reality to lecture others on what a real revolutionary is. But being real is dangerous for a reason, because this is a real cause and dissidents serious about their beliefs are a threat to the system. The system facilitates the type of "activism" anons do. Because it's harmless, a terminally online total nigger hater is just as impotent and pathetic as a terminally online troon. Cuckservatives are the biggest patriots, hell even anarchists and communists shill for the system these days. Power works, fear works, terror works. That is what is necessary to keep the system alive, that is what is necessary to burn it down.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

I'm willing to "settle" for Russia and China because their resources are absolutely necessary in this struggle. Imagine a world where there is no "multipolar" nation, no alternative idea, just this blob of democratic liberal globalist capitalism. That's the world westerners live in. But it doesn't have to be. It simply doesn't matter what one's personal opinion of Russia and China is from facts-based research or what have you. All that matters is the destruction of the machine. Hail Victory.

You have still yet to throughout this exchange establish how either party is capable of challenging the current order desires to do so or indeed actually will lend out a hand to people both nations hate and have made a cornerstone of culture to hate.

[Guest]

I'm willing to "settle" for Russia and China because their resources are absolutely necessary in this struggle. 

“GuestBro I didn’t get it either until NeclearBro Explained it to me. So it’s like China and Russia are only Ostensibly like enemies of ZOG, but get this they like are really each others Greatest Ally’s working together for Democracy. Like Putin fights for Democracy, Xi Jinping says “I Love ZOG”. Right GuestBro it’s like how in the Cold War each side was actually Anti-Imperialism and not “capitalism Vs communism” and just didn’t want the other side to do an Imperialism to the hecken Wholesome Brownorinos. Like The Russo-Sino alliance actually see our side as a greater threat to them then ZOG, our ideas are dangerous revolutionary notions that threaten the Legal/Social Systems that ZOG/Russo-Sino alliance are Predicated on. Don’t be lazy GuestBro and take the first Alliance Invitation your given, be willing to actually win and not just feel like your gonna win in the early game. Have some faith that you can do it and don’t chicken out bro.”

[a system is failing]

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I think it's time to take your own advice.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

“GuestBro I didn’t get it either until NeclearBro Explained it to me. So it’s like China and Russia are only Ostensibly like enemies of ZOG, but get this they like are really each others Greatest Ally’s working together for Democracy. Like Putin fights for Democracy, Xi Jinping says “I Love ZOG”.

To add on to this it is not the shared cause of government by head count that is the issue, they quite clearly don't share it even if all make the motions of being republics, it is that all of them are predicated on human quality/government of the stomach/yeast life whatever you might call it. Russia's government as part of its policy in general of crushing anything that could harm Kremlins hates Russian people who organize for Russians not churkas and liveleak illuminates the nature of Chinese Socialism quite aptly.

[Guest]

You have still yet to throughout this exchange establish how either party is capable of challenging the current order desires to do so or indeed actually will lend out a hand to people both nations hate and have made a cornerstone of culture to hate.

Not bad points. I appreciate that you're actually engaging in this discussion and helping me hone my argument. It's not an established pitch and I'm really having to go off the cuff. The biggest capability I'm looking at is their unrivaled manpower and resources. The west is the most dangerous enemy you can make in the world. They will kill you with a fucking drone without having to put anything more than a cleanup squad on the ground, said squad being among the most well trained on Earth. To face a behemoth like that you're going to need training, connections, supplies. Russia and China are the best in that regard. But do they have a desire to challenge the west themselves? I'd argue their very existence is a challenge to the west. The west simply cannot tolerate alternate forms of government that put western cultural hegemony at risk. Cue the countless regime changes. So for the west, Russia and China are regimes that need changing, they are absolutely opposed to them. But will Russia and China actually partner with the far right? Well, China is absolutely hooked on socialism and Russia is against Nazism and even White nationalism. The key is not being a "far right political organization", sure those can be fun to stir up trouble but they live on borrowed time under western rule. You just need to be a capable operator, a valuable resource, the best in the business. Make the Russians or Chinese an offer they can't refuse, that offer being your partnership. That is exactly how Russia and China became an axis to begin with despite ideological differences. I don't mean to sound lofty or vague, but it's going to require entrepreneurial spirit because you would be breaking ground and doing something game changing. Becoming a powerful western dissident force.

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I think it's time to take your own advice.

So childish. No argument, just trying to deflect. I get your angle. "Oh so you think dissidents should actually do shit huh? Well aren't you a hypocrite because you're posting on this site instead of doing shit." I've heard the same spin from cuckservatives on other sites a million times. You want me to rationalize my behavior to you? Well, I like talking strategy. I think it's good to know strategy and study it. I've had a lot of discussions, and it's not just discussion. These are ideas that will determine our future. The future matters, our actions matter, I don't think it's unjustifiable to treat these matters seriously. If you want to live in pretend world like every normie of which there are billions, if you have no convictions or willpower, we are simply not the same. But I know, I can feel that there are some here who may understand what I'm talking about. That there's more to life than watching anime and discussing it alongside e-drama. And yeah, I will go out and make my ideas a reality, thanks for your approval.

[Zed]

China has to be economically obliterated. There is no future for either America or Europe elsewise.

The cost of a loss is a permanent balkanization into several Chinese client-states, with externally fomented civil strife and 'bilateral aid' utilized to render us the long term of equivalent of Iraq. Meanwhile, they will play to the side that cucks the most, switching allegiance between leftist/rightist factions the moment any seems too dominant or poses a threat to their interest. Our natural resources and land will be aggressively pillaged, our museums emptied and exported, and the permitted elite will retain the dignity of the average Arab/African oligarchy.