Thread Ideas

[Guest]

Not sure if this would be for the Gotterdaemmerung forum or for Wired Anthropology, but the thread idea is The Decline of the Free Software Movement. With figures like Richard Stallman being at the head of this, the Open Source movement had once attracted both the cognoscenti and those of lesser caliber, centered around supporting certain Linux distributions and railing against proprietary software. Despite being a movement on the Internet, less and less discussion is found on the subject today. Is there a larger implication to be found here? Has something changed internally with the Internet that makes widespread free software implausible? Is it a gradual loss of IQ that makes discussions like these harder, or is it also due to non-white influences in computer industries? Is it just simply irrelevant in light of other more pressing details?
My experience with Linux was in a limited capacity around 2014-2016, so it would be wrong of me to make a lengthened thread on this subject. If others are more experienced with the subject, or have a comprehensive grasp on Stallman's writings about Free Software, this would be best.

I would be interested in this thread, but I wonder if the contemporary equivalent still exists in the form of louis rossman right to repair advocacy, and luke smith or mental outlaw anonymity/agency advocacy. I don't think these are the real small sort of micro-celebs either, open any public invidious instance (open source youtube privacy front end) front page and you'll be recommended of their videos mixed in with everything else. I do not have context to compare contemporaries to FOSS oldies.

How much could the appearance of health or otherwise to you merely reflect the activity of specific influential characters who were most acquainted with in the free software movement?

The greatest critique I've heard of open source is that it is a scam by corporations to milk free labor out of autistic hobbyists. Obviously doesn't apply as much when you are developing a tool with a built in instrumental morality or
power transfer, like anonymity technologies. More-so, when huge industries are relying on a hobbyist in kansas to patch bugs because it makes him feel like the system is accepting or legitimizing some of the ideology behind his efforts. At least bitcoiners get money for adoption, these sad thralls get squat. If a corporation uses your 'hub directly, post their logo in the readme and call them out for not donating, else you're a cuck.

[BillyONare]

I’m not a software engineer so this may be an ignorant opinion. It seems that there are no rewards to using or contributing to open source software.

Linux has many many bugs and compatibility issues and Mac OS is the same thing but “just works”. Perhaps if you are a software engineer and get it set up just right you can get some major productivity boosts with Vim and bash scripts and tiling window manager keybinds or something, but it still seems that things break all the time. Professional software engineers use Mac for the most part.

Not only do you not get paid for contributing to open source, there doesn’t seem like a path to getting into it unless you are an extremely talented developer. No one seeks out intelligent young men to serve as apprentices and your contributions are likely to be rejected. Why would you want bow and scrape to some non-verbally autistic greybeard for some begrudgingly imparted wisdom about LLVM when you can make money and learn way more at the same time at a real company while being treated with respect?

If you are already good enough to make useful open source software that “just works”, why would you when you can make $700,000 at Apple or Amazon, or even more by creating a startup?

It may be that even if we lived in a libertarian pirate autism dystopia with no intellectual property laws, there would still be great demand for software engineers. Open source coders are autistic jannies who make free stuff that doesn’t work and isn’t useful.

[JohnTrent]

This probably deserves its own thread ...

I have started a thread about the subject. As said in the description, I hope the discussion here hasn't exhausted the topic.

[Guest]

A thread based on the ideas presented in this J'accuse article: [url=Envisioning Communism][/url]Envisioning Communism.

I think it's a really interesting article and a really motivating one. It discusses how the transition from feudalism to capitalism was made because the early capitalists were in a very precarious situation and saw the opportunity afforded to them by a different mode of economic organisation, focusing on trade and not loyalty to a king in hopes of becoming a feudal lord, and were able to greatly improve their material conditions.

This is very relatable to us in many ways:
1. We are in a precarious situation - we have no power, most of the avenues of power are un-appealing to us in various ways, but we are talented and would've easily scaled these hierarchies in more meritocratic times. In addition many of our goals are unachievable in the current GDPmaxxing paradigm. Mass deportation won't increase the GDP, and get ROI for shareholders thus won't receive funding.
2. The rise of AI and automation will probably mean going to witness a change in economic organization. We want to ride this wave to power.

The thread would discuss how we can utilize emerging technology and re imagine how to structure work and society. Right now our world is organized along the principle GDP maxxxing, at the expense of beauty, safety, nice white neighborhoods etc. Historically many nations were not organized likes this. They put some idea first, and everything else was enslaved to that. Mongols prized riding and archery, everything else was secondary to that. Thus they steamrolled the Eurasian continent. The pilgrims prioritized their religious freedom and expression, thus they colonized strange new worlds. The Third Reich had certain principles, to which the state was enslaved to, and thus excelled at those things to a far higher degree than ever seen before.

AI will decimate lots of jobs, this will give us a pool of people who have the ability to work but no motivation in the capitalist sense- no income. Yet the abundance generated by automation will enable us to support these peoples basic needs, thus there will be no need for income. People will work on whatever they please. This means suddenly we can spend more time working on our goals that won't provide us with monetary ROI, but will greatly improve our material conditions, lower crime rates, more beautiful people, more favorable social norms etc.

DISCLAIMER: I know this reeks of Marxism, I don't really know what to make of that. Maybe this is the socialist part of national socialism.

[Guest]

I endorse @guest's thread, and not just because the article goes VirusChad mode.

But, I think it would be prudent to critique the assumptions behind such a transition. Automation in terms of literally building semi-expensive mounted robot arms, and automation in terms of AI solving harder problems are two very different things and we could see one of them take off without the other. It seems even very likely, because automation of labor in the current paradigm has diminishing marginal financial returns once you have a bunch of unemployed people to do stuff from the last wave of automation, whether that wave targeted unskilled physical labor or semi-skilled white collar labor.

How well-prepped is the current system to move to a purely NGO/"charity" pseudo-government model? The corporate class could still get consultancies from such organizations.

[Guest]

I think we should create a thread expounding on mikka's Meritocracy in general. This can be a great draw in for the forum, as his ideas are basically just a couple screenshots on twitter, and some of the articles in the newsletter. It'd probably motivate people to visit and post if we can put forth a positive vision for the future. It can be called the meritocracy, or world when we win. In this we can couple together many of the ideas that are just floating around in our twitter sphere. This includes the envisioning communism post above, as although he discusses communism in terms of a transitional period, we can try imagining what the economy would look like in the world where we win. This can help us address some of the strong points that leftists put forth, the idea of talented people slaving away washing toilets because their parents are poor, while also explaining why their other points are stupid, their various reasoning as to why blacks are not keeping up. I am surprised there is no thread on Meritocracy already, or maybe I haven't found it. The closest I could find is one post on inheritance tax. Meritocracy is probably our strongest vector in modern politics. There are large swathes of Americans, across the political spectrum who still have a strong sense of fair play. I strongly believe that most Americans will ditch ideas of gay race marxism if we can just explain to them how the various Chandalas of America end up where they do has nothing to do with racism, racist systems and the like. Think about how 50% SJW rhetoric was obliterated (gender pay gap, men and women are equal, etc) because some edge lords on YouTube simply pointed out how they were wrong. When I monitor online leftists discourse on inequality of outcomes they are fill to the brim of wrong assumptions that have been disproved be genetics. A harder sell will be explaining our possible reasons for discrepancy, genetics. Yet if we can compile a thread where all these ideas are explained in great details: Meritocracy, inheritance tax, fair play, why fair play is good, systemic racism is stupid, biological factors that cause inequality of outcome, I can imagine kids making vtuber style videos across tiktok and YouTube that propagandize our points to the masses. I hope it will appeal to the youth because of our scientific genetics based approach, as opposed to the pathetic, whimpering, moralizing of leftists when it comes to these things. If you want proof look up Meritocracy on youtube, all the videos are leftist just moralizing, and lying about science. Another thing is Meritocracy is very clean, and very American, unlike various other ideologies that are dated, have no relevance to Americans, or dead on arrival because they are seen as equivalent to the great Fuehrer.


Another thread idea:
Are none of us involved in the Trump campaign? I know the idea of being a chaiwala for some GOP homos is very unappealing, but the Trump campaign is the best we got going as of now. We should make a thread where we can discuss happenings, ANONYMOUSLY. This seems like a good idea in general. Coordinate anonymously and execute our ideas based on optics and tolerance by the local public, while feigning ignorance beyond that. "Bell curve?? never heard of that... BAP??.. oh are you talking about WAP??"



"Do-Do-Doin' it for all the lonely c-a-ats out there!"

[Guest]

This includes the envisioning communism post above, as although he discusses communism in terms of a transitional period, we can try imagining what the economy would look like in the world where we win. This can help us address some of the strong points that leftists put forth, the idea of talented people slaving away washing toilets because their parents are poor

I don't understand why this is a "leftist" point. Was Napoleon a leftist? Read Le Rouge et le Noir, Julien Sorel was not dreaming of "communism". Leftists have nothing to contribute, they are biological refuse.

[NuclearAbsolutist]

I think we should create a thread expounding on mikka's Meritocracy in general. This can be a great draw in for the forum, as his ideas are basically just a couple screenshots on twitter, and some of the articles in the newsletter.

According to him there is actually only one writing that captures his views  and is thus the only source material  for any thread on it.

"The Polygyny article in j'accuse is the only long form exposition of meritocracy I have written and should be the benchmark of what my personal views are for any criticism. Everything else is written disinterestedly."

[anthony]

We need to make fun of the exhibition before it gets too old news. It's really funny.

[Guest]

we need a thread about future predictions,How is the world is going to be in the next 100 years, demographically,politically,economics and geopolitics are going to look like.

[Guest]

@guest more like decade if nothing really changes, and only trajectories from there. The predictions of the further future are likely dominated by the unknown and the actions one might take in the near future. still a possibly good thread idea

There could be a wired anthropology thread exploring the paypig situation- not the fetish thing itself (unless there is something interesting to note about it) but rather the general phenomenon of people tossing gobs of cash at internet celebrities for the privilege of interaction. Rather than a particular group, these people are dispersed all over the net from sam hyde to cozy.tv to twitch/onlyfans thots to even libertarian/manosphere nanocelebrities. How the hell does e-begging work? Are the payed messages typically to interact with the streamer, or to be seen by all the stream viewers? There is an arguable similarity to the NFT community, in that out of touch lonely rich kids who want to be respected or noticed will pay good money for a ounce of manufactured personality. Probably some tech guys too. It may also turn out that despite being very spread out that the bulk of all this behavior comes from a small set of people. Pareto principle and all that. One could investigate the character and motivation of the "whale" donators and the more well-adjusted normies separately.

[KV55]

We need to make fun of the exhibition before it gets too old news. It's really funny.

Are you referring to the exhibition titled The Exhibition that recently held in London?

[anthony]

We need to make fun of the exhibition before it gets too old news. It's really funny.

Are you referring to the exhibition titled The Exhibition that recently held in London?

That's the one.

[GraphWalkWithMe]

Assuming you're talking about the September 2023 Exhibition centered around the work of the almond sauce map-related DNC henchbitch Marina Abramovic?

[anthony]

Assuming you're talking about the September 2023 Exhibition centered around the work of the almond sauce map-related DNC henchbitch Marina Abramovic?

That's more lore than I'm familiar with. I really can't say.

[Mason Hall-McCullough]

- Climate agenda (is it true/important to any extent?)
- Web Environment Integrity API proposal (recent development pushed by Google and described as "DRM for websites")
- Miscellaneous substack review thread (with a mostly critical slant)
- Irony (how does it function, is it wise to employ it at all?)

1. California: Hippies, Serial Killers, and Rationalists - I mostly wish to write on the modern rationalist movement and the emergent cult formations around it; but it seems worthwhile to frame it more broadly, because of the emergent parallels with the hippies. There is a tremendous amount of interesting anthropological questions about these communities, particularly relating to the millenarian tendencies of AI Safety/Alignment individuals such as Eliezer 'Schlomo' Yudkowsky, and others.

Looks like I made a topic on AI safety already but modern (so-called) rationalism is a good topic that probably merits its own thread. It could also be interesting to discuss Effective Altruism and global charity/NGO networks in general.

[KV55]

We need to make fun of the exhibition before it gets too old news. It's really funny.

Are you referring to the exhibition titled The Exhibition that recently held in London?

That's the one.

Yes, It really was very funny. Many times have I faced a rather chilly reception upon declaration of my criticism of the "eminent" "artists" of the sphere...

A thread would be a good idea.

[Guest]

+1 WEI API and +1 climate

[Guest]

there should be a thread about race,racial differences,genetics,origins of ancient populations and debunking myths about race and genetics.

[Guest]

Gamestop (GME) stock cult, or other similar communities in metals/cryptocurrencies.

The obvious critique is that they put their entire hope into something outside of their control. If you knew for certain that you had an upcoming opportunity to 10x or 100x any invested sum, you may be quite motivated to acquire capital. But, some of the GME ones even believe that the price for their shares will break the economic system in such a fundamental way that owning merely 1 share is just like owning any number of shares- either as a quirk of worldwide bankruptcy, or as if there is no conceivable difference once you have that much money. This removes all motivation to even just accumulate more of the asset. Their fundamental character is slothful coping.

The most appealing thing about them is their dreams about what they will do once they have it. I imagine most people would improve if they spent a lot of time daydreaming about how they would actually live their life if their wealth could reforge nations on a whim. Specifically, self-knowledge.