The Path to Ultimate Power: How Do We Win?
I hate this thread so much.
(04-12-2023, 01:54 AM)anthony Wrote: I hate this thread so much.

I consider this a good thread as taken in total it leaves a negative answer to OPs question showing how The System/NWO/ZOG/Roundtable has earned ultimate power fair and square if the formulation against it is what has been posted here.
[Image: 3RVIe13.gif]

“Power changes its appearance but not its reality.”― Bertrand De Jouvenel
(04-12-2023, 01:54 AM)anthony Wrote: I hate this thread so much.


Why do you hate it? 

I hate it too, more or less.  But the reason is I don't see anything anti-realist described.  Which is what I think the political is. 

Realism vs anti-realism is either a topic so obscure people have to want to get into it - and commit enough writing so that others follow along - or it's too basic and easily overlooked to be accepted as "true".  So kind of a pain.  But it's the way forward. 

In a way, if people are temporal Nietzcheans anti-metaphysicians, they should already get the idea. 

But then there's a contradiction that so-called "active nihilist" circles conceptualize their boards - Salo, Tunis Bay, here to some degree - as "repositories of knowledge", which itself implies a normative Realism.

(04-12-2023, 08:06 AM)NuclearAbsolutist Wrote: earned
fair and square


Tell me about your ethics.
(04-13-2023, 12:10 PM)casual rapist Wrote: Tell me about your ethics.

I would say mine are simply those of Aristotle and “principles...before the French Revolution, every well-born person considered sane and normal.” My point with that snide remark was that if these proposals were all that could be thought up that those that are in power are in power for the same reason men who can't hit the broad side of a barn don't often win marksmen competitions.
[Image: 3RVIe13.gif]

“Power changes its appearance but not its reality.”― Bertrand De Jouvenel
I don't like to frame the situation this way on twitter but I believe history can be cleanly divided into periods in which *nothing happens* and periods of realignment, in which all the chips are on the table, there are distinct factions, and it's very clear to everyone what is at stake and how they can go about supporting their faction of choice. These periods of realignment are not rare, particularly in the modern world, and I'm certain we will see such a period in our lifetimes. My view is that the best course of action right now is to prepare and to study these periods so that you can act effectively when the opportunity comes. This thinking might seem to encourage complacency, and I think if taken without nuance it does, but if the two options are "prepare" and "force an opportunity" (which, don't get me wrong, someone or some group will need to do) I personally don't see any path to the latter option in my current position and I'd imagine it's the same for almost everyone here. 

As to what preparing entails, some of it has been touched on in this thread already. Networking is essential. I do think learning how to shoot a gun, learning to fight (particularly boxing), and taking care of your body are important. Familiarizing yourself with the structure of modern militaries and military operations is also important, and to that end I recommend reading the military field manuals on the Army website (especially FM 3.0 and 6.0). I don't think this is enough by itself, and my thoughts are constantly occupied with the question of what else can be done, but it's a start. While I realize this all sounds very 2018, I don't see how the situation could not eventually progress to armed conflict. Assuming the front is opened by one country flipping to the extreme right, through a coup or more likely political maneuvering, and then this spreads across Europe as BAP, Mikka, and others have predicted, the U.S. is not going to sit back and watch. Even if there is no direct military intervention there will be funding of subversive groups, riots, and so on. There will likely be civil wars in at least a few countries.

Some final thoughts on "forcing an opportunity": I have some vague ideas of what could be done but I don't have the resources to act them out right now. The idea of a group of white men taking over an African country I don't think is possible right now because it would almost certainly face immediate international retribution. You can't face modern militaries without an effective army, navy, and airforce and I doubt any of us will have the resources to field that in the near future. Piracy and organized crime in the vein of Paul Le Roux (but more political and less erratic) is more feasible but still requires significant resources. All this is to say the first step in creating this period of realignment likely needs to be one Western country flipping through the astute political maneuvering of someone with ambition, charisma, and the basic understanding that Western civilization is over if we don't end immigration. I also think the ascendancy of this new regime needs to be dramatic, symbolism and drama are important in establishing belief in peoples minds in something other than liberalism. Once that happens everything will open up, groups will form, conflicts will break out, and rays of light will begin shining into the Iron Prison.
(10-27-2022, 09:53 PM)holebear Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 08:54 PM)parsifal Wrote:
(10-27-2022, 06:01 PM)holebear Wrote: Aarvoll banned me out of his Discord server after I called him a nigger also he's fatherless so everything he says is colored by that.
for what it's worth i more or less disagreed with everything else he said in the video, and i haven't seen any of his other content (i just found out about him). his alternative is some sort of school to teach kids plato and aristotle, and he describes ZOG's "endgame" as WEF depopulation agenda stuff; not totally off the mark but not a rock-solid  assessment either. i only brought up the video at all because i really liked the chess game analogy as a way of conveying something i'd already been thinking about for a long time.

out of curiosity, why did you call him a nigger? i've yet to form an impression of the man either way.

I called him a nigger because his discord was laughable. I have a strongly negative opinion of 'reactionary theory types' (and really philosophy in general) and I view all of it as this parasitism. People there would just go on about dualism monism 2 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 1  1  1 like this is useful or good, besides the Evola/Guenon stuff and waxing poetic about spiritual nobility and monads and all this suffocating posturing which made me want to strangle everyone there.
I didn't actually call him it intentionally, I just called someone who i thought was being stupid as nigger and it turned out to be him lol

Theorycels realize too late a mind like Kant's could only come up with all that stuff because of that specific time and amount of useful energy Western civilization still had. If you love and care so much about philosophy and art, you should first fight for its preservation and, above that, for a new society where it will be heard and applied for the betterment of life itself. Nietzsche gave us all we need.
"How to find options you didn't know you had" a rambling encouragement to discover things that you won't share here because they are great ideas that confer a lot of strength to whoever implements them. likewise I won't share my inspirations for this post. When you have such a good idea that you wonder why nobody ever figured it out before you you'll understand what I mean.

You don't know things you don't know. If your options aren't too good your best chance at serendipitous insight is to learn about more things. You can't know much about the structure of what you don't know- but what you can know about it is precious. If you know or intuit that some range of topics have a known tendency to compound with knowledge you already have then start there. The most efficient way is just to learn skills that bring up myriad topics pertinent to statecraft or at least your individual agency. Worst case you gain some interesting expertise. Example: read "what it takes to disappear" by michael bazzell (privacy guide- so quirks of bureaucracy, identity and technology. USA audience with some expat advice)

In this context you should especially focus on things that have definite history-scale leverage to harvest or disrupt- e.g. money laundering, the political party system, advertisement data networks, the judicial system, darknet markets, computer vulnerability retail...

I know people say it as a disclaimer but don't do illegal things. Getting a little bit into the gray is understandable but if you are solidly dealing drugs or something you need to spend another half hour brainstorming. The best option is the best option, not what might be sexy or badass for a good few minutes. A lot of criminals get away with atrocious operational security practices because nobody has any motivation to nab them. You cannot count on that if you are a dissident worth eventual notoriety.

jack-of-all trades is very powerful for a lot of skills if you manage to do it just right. ~80% of the potential of software skills comes from general knowledge of the tech stack and knowing how to read enough code to confirm that something does what you think it does. or with AI and cryptography- you don't need to invent the next big thing, you just need to to find a clever way to patch some primitives/tools together in a unique context. there is also a lot of potential in surveying a field just to comprehend the existence of a plethora of topics, not to dive into any one of them. You understand a ~paragraph summary of some keywords, you can reference back to it if you realize something else might synergize. Root through conference talks (infocon.org) and books (libgen) just looking for interesting titles to sample just so that you can expand the set of things that you know exist.
I see people constantly giving credit to Fuentes for "shifting the overton window", or "pushing the RNC rightwards" but he hasn't even done any of that. His most relevant moment was meeting with Trump and seemingly being dismissed. Normies heard Kanye said antisemitic things and left it at that, not knowing who Fuentes even is or his involvement. The "groyper wars" didn't push TPUSA or the RNC rightwards, that was something already unfolding in the aftermath of Trump and leftist radicalization. Fuentes has in reality had basically no relevant impact on discourse outside of parroting things Twitter anons said before and starting e-drama. He'll continue to run his movement into the ground while the right moves onwards. Twitter posters have had an influence vastly outsizing anything Fuentes could ever claim.
[Image: avatar_424.png?dateline=1675414748]
Spingebill
the key is looking cool and having money, and then saying it's the kikes
casual rapist Wrote:What is this wiccan nonsense? The idea that one selects a new set of propositions to "believe" means you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The first move is there are no forms innate to the world. The second is that the purpose of "religion" is to set down those forms. All other forms are built off of these—in reference and within their parameters. You don't believe "IN" religion—You believe "through" religion. Belief isn't even a good word. You understand through religion, which are just the fundamental forms. Absent them, there is no other way to grasp the world. "I believe in this" "I believe in that" nonsense. Presupposes there is something out there. 

Now the Western European world concept does indeed presuppose there is something out there, in a very particular way, different from other contemptible hominids. This is small p platonism. Realism. Maths. Metaphysical realism. Big P platonism is the gobbledygook the man himself mapped out, realist but not realism as such. Lower p is just synonymous with realism, but the condition of man is anti-realist. Which is to say things exist, but their existence is contingent upon our own. Concepts  are anthropological forms. 

If you understand the kikish GOP, the Boomer GOP, the Right who's surrendered their heritage to parasitic nation wreckers - their entire program or involvement are rhetorical steelmen and strawmen to prevent this affirmation, that concepts are anthropological forms. 

The sacred, "religion", these are just the most fundamental forms of a people, or of a civilization if they rule other people. That which shall not be infringed. Because it constitutes the fundamental frame for grasping reality itself, and all other subsequent forms derived. And absent them there is nothing. And all subsequent forms become ungrounded. Now if you want a new "religion", you can have it. But it's not about "believing" something. The morons that crinkle their brows, really believing in trees or something are idiots. Forms are anthropological. 

There is no such thing as a private language, private intelligibility. The intelligible, the order we lend to the world, is socially created, in a mimetic and participatory fashion. These NRx NERDS off in corners declaring "truths" are LOSERS.  The populist wignat FAGGOTS orchestrating anti-social displays are MORONS. LOSERS. If you want new forms, you need a pro-social, attractive, mimetic display. An understanding and intention to extend what is devised as communicative forms among participants forward in time. And a dedication and intollerance to yeet from view anything or anyone that conflicts. You must be a VISUAL FASCIST. Of your own time, in the styles of your time. But insisting upon your own image at center of ALL things. And tear down the image of everyone else. Piss on them. 

"To be what we see pleases us" So you better take control of that. Try it and you will see the kikes absolutely screech, which will announce their presence to everyone else. That's how it's done. NOT by shouting IT'S THE KIKES. No shit, it's the kikes. Moron. 

This thread belongs in "how we win". It's not going to change. You can write other things for fun, but it's not going to change. Very nice. In front of a lot of people. In mimetic fashion, with promise of particpation and ritual reward.  Good Reverend, I understand your thought process and sympathize. XYZ is more "european". But the world is not constructed according to belief. The world just is. What is constructed is what you and those like you find significant from infinite sensory input. This is the most natural process and will always carry your own reflection. 

Some guys don't understand what is already wind in your sails. And what requires lifting. Power, form, order, intelligibility are all the same thing. Aspects of what all men must bring to the world. There is no such thing as a private language. Intelligibility is a product of multiple minds. Mind is a collective thing. When you think you're thinking great thoughts by yourself, in a literate, materially rich representation society, you're merely intereacting with artifacts of prior sociality. The words you use and concepts in your brain, they're all anthropogolical and social. 

Your brain is an organ in your body without meaning. Mind is a collective entity. Physical similarity is the lowest degree of friction between two or more beings deriving meaning in the world. Common mind. Within group, "race" is what doesn't need to be stated, what is mutually given. Opening up space for focus on finer distinction, subtlety. High culture. 

You will never not be white. And what you can particpate in is only open to those like you. But in this natural creation of world, more slips from view the more sophisticated it becomes. More exits from view and becomes part of the ground over which refinements develop. This creates a danger. In this age of alien presence and resentment for things we do not see, the necessity arises to explicitly affirm the entire stack. Because life and the need to navigate it doesn't stop, the static state of white isn't the explicit focus. But everything you implicitly are or touch should be labelled white. 

The danger in platonism is taking what you created and relabelling it an attribute of the universe and opening it for access to all.
Every single path discussed in this thread is worth pursuing in some capacity and I don’t think there’s a single “true” path to power. Memes, cultural influence, networking, infiltration, business, militias, media, publishing, even homesteading all serve to push the world in a more based direction. This is what the left did, although as others have noted we don’t necessarily have time for a long march through the institutions. One field I bizarrely rarely see focused on by this sphere is law. Almost all of the left's institutional dominance is downstream from their power in law, and whether we like it or not law will be the main battleground for consolidating power. The only path to outright avoid is terrorism. Terrorism works against states in collapse (see late Imperial Russia), but it does not work against stable states. The RAF and Red Brigades pursued terrorism against stable states, and succeeded only in alienating their popular support through violence and inviting state repression which destroyed them. The spontaneous acts of terrorism we’ve seen coming from WNs over the past few years have been similarly failures.

Military coups are an interesting path but outside of maybe France and a few other European countries there exists no real base for any kind of based coup. At present any attempt at a based coup in Europe would be immediately targeted by America, but may succeed regardless. Military coups require huge coordination, networking, and institutional backing which RWers do not possess at the moment. In America the military leadership is fully pozzed (though not the whole military), and police are powerless. Regardless, a coup of some kind would be the most solid path to victory although it’s not very realistic for us immediately. However a coup wouldn’t even necessarily have to be launched by the military, imagine if Trump had refused to stand down on January 6th and encouraged his supporters to continue. Sure it may not have succeeded, but it would be a real breaking point.

Infiltration isn’t as hard as some seem to think. American institutions are not constantly watching for dissidents infiltrating them. They have neither the capacity nor the competence at present. Furthermore depending on where you live in the US and what you do for work security clearances are handed out like candy. The downsides of infiltration are that it requires a constant self-censoring except when with a trusted network, and some level of concealing or compromising with your beliefs. If you're an FSO or something similar you can wield a pretty significant level of influence with decent autonomy. A pretty huge amount of “based” rhetoric can be concealed as “Realism”. Especially among older (and whiter) generations who remain the dominant competent figures in US institutions, discontent with the left is fairly common, although it hardly goes much further right than center in most cases.

There are a lot of people in the more conspiratorial and anti-capitalist sides of the sphere who ascribe more power to GNC/ZOG than it actually has. It knows it’s in danger, and has been since 2016, that’s why it acts the way it does. We don’t need to disempower the PMCs or destroy global finance capital to win. Our enemies are a relatively small number of influential people (with names and addresses). Memes and cultural soft power have shown their effectiveness in altering discourse and mainstreaming previously obscure ideas. As others itt have said this soft power is our strength, but it needs to be translated from there into hard power.


Quote:Because their enemies were in deadly earnest. They wanted to transform the mindset of Western societies, and the way that they configured to do that wasn't through vanguard parties, although they supported them, wasn't through doctrines of social revolution, although they may have residually supported that. It was by changing the grammar that people used to think with at the advanced level.
BAP was most interesting when he pondered the black market, glowie and statesman routes to statesmanship in falling states like the soviet union. Glad I had time to learn about their stories before whoogling "russian oligarch" got propaganda flood damage. If anyone who has watched BAP can direct me to the episodes he deals with statecraft (especially soviet peri-collapse) that would be appreciated.

This thread is rather longwinded but explains the difference between statesmen who became oligarchs and those who became nobodies: those who drew power from the surplus of a central coordinator versus those who drew it from comprehension of and leverage within their locality. Think of an IT guy who has direct power in an enterprise because he is the only one who can keep the tech stack from going under.
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1...6554795014
Kamil Galeev is a Tatar nationalist and is only popular as a source because international relations  (now ex) blue checks like their own reheated papers  repeated back to them especially when it's a non white ultra nationalist doing it. I suggest saving time and not reading Indian style threads and instead just directly read Foreign Policy magazine. On the topic of the underworld while the collapse of the USSR is a intriguing place to mine for polemics and ideas we aren't under commies and our structure is totally different. And in a broader sense the criminal underworld(Of which many oligarchs arose from or gained ties to)is not a model due to a fundamental difference in means and ends explained well in this passage from the book Blood Money by Margaret D. Sankey

Blood Money Wrote:On the terror end, VNSA[Violent Non State Actors] are defined by prioritizing ideology, outcome over profits (a showy attack versus steady access to money), long horizons for achieving goals, discrimination in targeting who can be exploited, wanting to have their deeds publicized and gain a following, little to no interest in the state continuing in its present form, and conviction that they represent a righteous cause. At the other end, criminal organizations are motivated by profits, the secure continuation of those profits, immediate needs for those profits to materialize, far more inclusive views of who can be victimized, no real desire for wider publicity and recruitment, and, although often at odds, a need for states to provide arbitrage structures and maintain enough law and order for there to be a host for parasitical exploitation.

Which is apparent in both the ideological development of Russia and its rulers. But instead of a need for a state they need the international system so they can enjoy the French countryside and Dubai.
[Image: 3RVIe13.gif]

“Power changes its appearance but not its reality.”― Bertrand De Jouvenel
(06-03-2023, 02:23 AM)Elfenlied Wrote: Every single path discussed in this thread is worth pursuing in some capacity and I don’t think there’s a single “true” path to power. Memes, cultural influence, networking, infiltration, business, militias, media, publishing, even homesteading all serve to push the world in a more based direction. This is what the left did, although as others have noted we don’t necessarily have time for a long march through the institutions. One field I bizarrely rarely see focused on by this sphere is law. Almost all of the left's institutional dominance is downstream from their power in law, and whether we like it or not law will be the main battleground for consolidating power. The only path to outright avoid is terrorism. Terrorism works against states in collapse (see late Imperial Russia), but it does not work against stable states. The RAF and Red Brigades pursued terrorism against stable states, and succeeded only in alienating their popular support through violence and inviting state repression which destroyed them. The spontaneous acts of terrorism we’ve seen coming from WNs over the past few years have been similarly failures.

Military coups are an interesting path but outside of maybe France and a few other European countries there exists no real base for any kind of based coup. At present any attempt at a based coup in Europe would be immediately targeted by America, but may succeed regardless. Military coups require huge coordination, networking, and institutional backing which RWers do not possess at the moment. In America the military leadership is fully pozzed (though not the whole military), and police are powerless. Regardless, a coup of some kind would be the most solid path to victory although it’s not very realistic for us immediately. However a coup wouldn’t even necessarily have to be launched by the military, imagine if Trump had refused to stand down on January 6th and encouraged his supporters to continue. Sure it may not have succeeded, but it would be a real breaking point.

Infiltration isn’t as hard as some seem to think. American institutions are not constantly watching for dissidents infiltrating them. They have neither the capacity nor the competence at present. Furthermore depending on where you live in the US and what you do for work security clearances are handed out like candy. The downsides of infiltration are that it requires a constant self-censoring except when with a trusted network, and some level of concealing or compromising with your beliefs. If you're an FSO or something similar you can wield a pretty significant level of influence with decent autonomy. A pretty huge amount of “based” rhetoric can be concealed as “Realism”. Especially among older (and whiter) generations who remain the dominant competent figures in US institutions, discontent with the left is fairly common, although it hardly goes much further right than center in most cases.

There are a lot of people in the more conspiratorial and anti-capitalist sides of the sphere who ascribe more power to GNC/ZOG than it actually has. It knows it’s in danger, and has been since 2016, that’s why it acts the way it does. We don’t need to disempower the PMCs or destroy global finance capital to win. Our enemies are a relatively small number of influential people (with names and addresses). Memes and cultural soft power have shown their effectiveness in altering discourse and mainstreaming previously obscure ideas. As others itt have said this soft power is our strength, but it needs to be translated from there into hard power.


Quote:Because their enemies were in deadly earnest. They wanted to transform the mindset of Western societies, and the way that they configured to do that wasn't through vanguard parties, although they supported them, wasn't through doctrines of social revolution, although they may have residually supported that. It was by changing the grammar that people used to think with at the advanced level.

I was a believer in "lawfare" until 2017. I thought that we could get precedents on the books by appealing through the courts at the local and state level and appeal to the supreme court which was becoming more conservative in those days. Right now, even, the supreme court is probably as conservative as it will ever be, since conservatives will never win the white house ever again in a post-election fraud america. Every election from here on out will be defrauded, and even if it wasn't, the demographics make the fraud almost an unnecessary afterthought at this point.

But every day I read some stupid story about a "white supreemist" pleading guilty to something they certainly were not guilty of.
James Fields, who got into the car accident in C-ville, didn't hit the person he was accused of murdering. The entire government including the sitting president, declared him guilty before his trial, which was a mistrial and a guaranteed ticket to 'getting off on a technicality.' Didn't matter. He plead guilty, got life, even though he was no murderer and never wanted to hurt anyone. He'll be in prison until the day he is broken out during the civil war, and who knows how many years that will still be.
Just the other day, some kid plead guilty to terrorism or some shit for doing a tiki torch march. He'll get life too, or maybe just 15 years. Six of one half dozen of the other because the only way he'll be seeing daylight is when he is busted out by freedom fighters.
The right has no support for lawfare. We don't have lawyers lining up to represent us for free. We don't have gofundme networks throwing money at us for bail and commissary for those who get locked up for the cause. We can't do lawfare, because lawfare is downstream of cultural support.
(06-03-2023, 10:33 PM)Carbide Wrote: I was a believer in "lawfare" until 2017. I thought that we could get precedents on the books by appealing through the courts at the local and state level and appeal to the supreme court which was becoming more conservative in those days. Right now, even, the supreme court is probably as conservative as it will ever be, since conservatives will never win the white house ever again in a post-election fraud america. Every election from here on out will be defrauded, and even if it wasn't, the demographics make the fraud almost an unnecessary afterthought at this point.

But every day I read some stupid story about a "white supreemist" pleading guilty to something they certainly were not guilty of.
James Fields, who got into the car accident in C-ville, didn't hit the person he was accused of murdering. The entire government including the sitting president, declared him guilty before his trial, which was a mistrial and a guaranteed ticket to 'getting off on a technicality.' Didn't matter. He plead guilty, got life, even though he was no murderer and never wanted to hurt anyone. He'll be in prison until the day he is broken out during the civil war, and who knows how many years that will still be.
Just the other day, some kid plead guilty to terrorism or some shit for doing a tiki torch march. He'll get life too, or maybe just 15 years. Six of one half dozen of the other because the only way he'll be seeing daylight is when he is busted out by freedom fighters.
The right has no support for lawfare. We don't have lawyers lining up to represent us for free. We don't have gofundme networks throwing money at us for bail and commissary for those who get locked up for the cause. We can't do lawfare, because lawfare is downstream of cultural support.

I'm in agreement with you that lawfare is not entirely possible as of now, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be focused on or that people in these circles shouldn't be encouraged to pursue law. At the moment the right is dominating with soft power. Yes, nobody is publicly calling for TND but when MSNBC is having panels debating woke capitalism its obvious something has been happening. It's again about transforming that soft power into hard power, which in my opinion requires pursuing basically every path discussed itt. The legal apparatus is overwhelmingly dominated by leftists, and it's because they have elite funds (see Soros), institutional support (FBI and DOJ), and networking/activist orgs supporting their every move (see National Lawyer's Guild). If we want to decisively win in lawfare we need at least two of those three in our hands and so a multi-front approach is necessary. It doesn't help our cause that the legal profession is rapidly becoming dominated by women.
"Birds of the same feather flock together.
You may need to look deep within yourself to find out why you are consistently grouping yourself up with low-quality types.
Alas, I have no advice on that part. "

No, if you have a 3+ sigma IQ, it is very hard to find people with whom to connect, as Nils M. Holm wrote himself in "What to do with a high IQ" and "The Gap" on his site http://t3x.org. He is member of the Triple Nine Society.

I am a eugenicist anyway and am glad when my genes are gone; were I not a Christian, I would kill myself, but Hod forces us to live because He knows how crappy this world is. Therefore He threatens with Hell.
(06-07-2023, 01:18 PM)Guest Wrote: "Birds of the same feather flock together.
You may need to look deep within yourself to find out why you are consistently grouping yourself up with low-quality types.
Alas, I have no advice on that part. "

No, if you have a 3+ sigma IQ, it is very hard to find people with whom to connect, as Nils M. Holm wrote himself in "What to do with a high IQ" and "The Gap" on his site http://t3x.org. He is  member of the Triple Nine Society.

I am a eugenicist anyway and am glad when my genes are gone; were I not a Christian, I would kill myself, but Hod forces us to live because He knows how crappy this world is. Therefore He threatens with Hell.

Thanks for sharing. This is some very interesting stuff. Particularly pleased to see that Holm shares my interest in sensitivity in addition to sheer intelligence. I'd still say he seems if anything optimistic compared to me. But it's nice to see some candid thought on this subject from the smart end. I really like this kind of thinker. Open minded STEM guy who could have become a rationalist but knew better and just writes like a human. Maybe this guy even deserves his own thread. Reading bits and pieces of his stuff now.

(06-07-2023, 11:00 PM)anthony Wrote: Reading bits and pieces of his stuff now.

Update:

[Image: image.png]
"WE'RE NOT SORRY"

[Image: image.png]
Call me a doomer if you like, but I tend to agree with Nemets as much as I hate to say it.

The White race is doomed, not only are the numbers simply insurmountable, but the Will to reverse the seemingly inevitable march to nigger world is just not there.

If there was a last chance it had to be Hitler. Really a century and thirty years ago, if all the European powers had joined together and purged the nigger and chink populations and colonized Asia and Africa. It's too late and the ship has sailed.

All the Amarnite dreams of TND and eugenics on a planetary scale require actual sovereignty, that is control of the state, population and landmass. There is simply no path this century to achieve this. No opening and eventually it will be pointless as the White population will be too small to seize power.

If you're religious you make take solace in an afterlife, or a supernatural end to history, if not I'd say follow the example of the Cimbri and Numantines who committed mass suicide to avoid enslavement.

To answer some predictable counter points.

"We don't need the masses", you do if you want foot soldiers to take the bullets so you won't. If the masses are shrinking(that is the normie White population) you will be simply be overwhelmed by the nigger hordes.

Biological and nuclear weapons: Yes, that could reverse things decisively, though when are any of you acquiring the nuclear arsenal or producing a biological agent that targets the bantu genome?

Maybe some of you young men will lead glorious last stands or destroy the world to deny it to the filth. I doubt it.

So all that said, is there a path to winning?

No.
(06-12-2023, 11:40 PM)Guest Wrote: Call me a doomer if you like, but I tend to agree with Nemets as much as I hate to say it.

The White race is doomed, not only are the numbers simply insurmountable, but the Will to reverse the seemingly inevitable march to nigger world is just not there.

If there was a last chance it had to be Hitler. Really a century and thirty years ago, if all the European powers had joined together and purged the nigger and chink populations and colonized Asia and Africa. It's too late and the ship has sailed.

All the Amarnite dreams of TND and eugenics on a planetary scale require actual sovereignty, that is control of the state, population and landmass. There is simply no path this century to achieve this. No opening and eventually it will be pointless as the White population will be too small to seize power.

If you're religious you make take solace in an afterlife, or a supernatural end to history, if not I'd say follow the example of the Cimbri and Numantines who committed mass suicide to avoid enslavement.

To answer some predictable counter points.

"We don't need the masses", you do if you want foot soldiers to take the bullets so you won't. If the masses are shrinking(that is the normie White population) you will be simply be overwhelmed by the nigger hordes.

Biological and nuclear weapons: Yes, that could reverse things decisively, though when are any of you acquiring the nuclear arsenal or producing a biological agent that targets the bantu genome?

Maybe some of you young men will lead glorious last stands or destroy the world to deny it to the filth. I doubt it.

So all that said, is there a path to winning?

No.

On Truth Sayers
“I have the truth” they tell you. They never stop blathering about this truth to all and every ear to which might hear. Never stops the torrent of this truth from their pious overdeveloped maw that incessantly insists upon. “It is not like your pretty lie” he says in a most smug fashion, no no, for the truth is ugly, and this is how he knows it to be the truth.

How it’s makes all who hear it’s abhorrent tangle of malignant facts wretch and river. How it make their skin crawl and stomach turn. How it makes their eyes teary and mouth tremble. How it makes their knee shake and chest ache. “This must be the truth” he says when he see this. Yes yes, this is his truth, the more ugly and malformed the most truthful. 

How I despise these men who have sold vitality for this truth. To worship and adorn the world with this truth. They must make the world like their truth—to make it horrific and abhorrent, repulsive and repugnant. This is why they must never stop espousing such a truth. Their devotion to the lowly and sickly—such is the sickness which wishes to propagate itself among those who have not heard my teachings, shall I tell you?

Will to power—I reach to the heavens above! Will to power—I resist the spirit of gravity! Will to power—I bite down on the snake of pity which has bitten my heart! Will to power—I confess vitality in itself, strength in itself, over weakness and ugliness! We do not exist at the fate of ugly facts but rather in the will to ascend towards the heavens. If we can’t make gods let us make overman.

And to the man to who has buried and wrapped himself in his truths so thoroughly that he has become one in the same with it—let him be nothing but the stepping stone in your ascension towards the azure infinite above. WILL TO POWER!

Thus spoke Zarathustra.
(06-12-2023, 11:40 PM)Guest Wrote: Call me a doomer if you like, but I tend to agree with Nemets as much as I hate to say it.

https://www.jaccusepaper.co.uk/p/the-ope...s-lectures

J'Accuse Magazine Wrote:After several hours of these bon mots, you may wonder why a university graduate LARPing as an autodidact by saying the same things you can read in any "Big History" best-seller published over the past 20 years is considered an authority on ‘war’, is there anything I've said here you cannot get from reading Noah Yuval Harari?

Now its time for something slightly dark and offside, something, dare I say it, “dissident right”; I’m going to make fun of fat people again. Be warned, however, if you suggest I might be an idiot for printing billions of billions of dollars and shutting down the productive economy for the sole and exclusive benefit of fat people.

Agency is a myth. Nobody is Caesar. The Rubicon erodes the banks required to cross it every thousand years. That is why you need to spend your time getting exceptionally angry about minor foreign policy blunders and American culture wars. It is impossible to reverse USian demographics but imagine what we could’ve achieved in the mid-terms had the GOP not massacred its base with harmful anti-vaccine rhetoric.

A man who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing is not a insightful guide. This is the case with everyone who simply takes the data output by the establishment without considering wider context or possibilities.
[Image: 3RVIe13.gif]

“Power changes its appearance but not its reality.”― Bertrand De Jouvenel



[-]
Quick Reply
Message
Type your reply to this message here.




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)