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(03-30-2023, 03:24 PM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: [ -> ]There is no "classical greatness" or "power" here. This is the epitome of impotent, middle-school LARPing. -ACK

Good critiques. He really should hit the gym and eat better. But who else does what he does? Stands true to his beliefs, even facing cancellation and defamation, even facing these countless betrayals from people he thought he could trust. He is not some edgy kid talking out of his ass, he lives by the things he says and he is the leader of a movement that will only continue to grow in influence and power. He dominates the conversation whenever he is given a platform, he built his own platform from the ground up. He's funny, relatable, and kind hearted. He discusses things that are relevant and impactful, not schizo bullshit like eugenics, ancient history, and sunning your balls. Who does it better than him? Well that's the thing, you fundamentally oppose people like him. He's a "facelord who encourages irl groups" and thus is the type of person you will automatically fedjacket. You don't want dissidents to have a leader or a cause. And among the leaders and causes available, Nick Fuentes and AF are the best.

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Nick about to cry over people not giving niggers full immunity for their actions

(03-30-2023, 03:55 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-30-2023, 03:24 PM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: [ -> ]There is no "classical greatness" or "power" here. This is the epitome of impotent, middle-school LARPing. -ACK

But who else does what he does? Stands true to his beliefs, even facing cancellation and defamation, even facing these countless betrayals from people he thought he could trust.

This can be said for any number of utterly ineffectual morons of both the 2010s alt-right (Richard Spencer, the TRS (now NJP) guys, etc.) and the white nationalism of last century. Getting cancelled and defamed by the regime is nothing special and does no good for the white race or America in and of itself; at worst, it provides an excellent effigy for the regime to point to and say "See! Everyone who opposes the regime is a weird antisocial loser who fantasizes about murdering people from his mom's basement!" Like Spencer before him, Fuentes has been granted what he desires most - attention - by the regime in exchange for playing a convincing "bad guy" for regime media. I don't think he does this consciously, but it's how it works out.

tl;dr I don't care how much he's "suffered" - I care only about his results.

Quote:He is not some edgy kid talking out of his ass, he lives by the things he says and he is the leader of a movement that will only continue to grow in influence and power.

He doesn't pray, doesn't go to church, doesn't eat right, doesn't work out, doesn't talk to women, doesn't have a family, worships criminal niggers, loves crime and says it's "based," watches tranny porn, etc. His actions speak louder than words in terms of his goals as a "leader," which are very clearly not gaining and using actual political power but instead starting petty streamer drama with other online figures. Look at how hard he has railed against anyone and everyone who even slightly criticizes or disagrees with him. Mister Metokur, BAP, even a very successful right-populist like J.D. Vance, someone who is an almost perfect contender for the "/ourguy/ Candidate" - against all of them Nick has waged continual petty ego crusades for not sucking up to him, which wastes his and his "movement's" time and energy and does no good for any of their nominal goals. AF is nothing but a cult of personality around Fuentes, and the only thing that matters to them is protecting his ego.

Quote:He dominates the conversation whenever he is given a platform, he built his own platform from the ground up. He's funny, relatable, and kind hearted.

I agree that Nick is mildly funny and charismatic, which is how he got to where he is. I respect his building of cozy as well. "Relatable" is a non-descriptor for 100-IQ bruh5moments-Americans. Nick seems like a very performative, vindictive, narcissistic, and petty person; I would hate to be a "friend" of his.

Quote:He discusses things that are relevant and impactful, not schizo bullshit like eugenics, ancient history, and sunning your balls.

He "comments" on the news by regurgitating /pol/ memes and has no actual ideas or beliefs outside of what will get him popularity. Could you imagine Fuentes writing an inspirational book or manifesto? I can't. I imagine he hardly even reads anything at all. He has no creative, imaginative, insightful, or inspirational worldview or vision for the future, just empty screeds and platitudes he copied from Trump and 2017 /pol/.

Quote:Who does it better than him?

Does what, exactly? What has Fuentes even done since the "Groyper Wars" of 2019 (which he didn't even start, but rather parasitically latched onto after it had begun)? His latest claims to relevancy has entirely consisted of:

1. Picking pointless, petty, ego-driven disputes with other retarded Internet personalities like "Mister Metokur" or "Bronze Age Pervert" (clearly very serious thinkers whom you need to spend your time debating and harassing!), and
   
2. Latching onto his favorite celebrity - a retarded, mentally ill, impulsive, nigger rapper - during a self-destructive mental breakdown and causing him public embarrassment, getting him to say a few edgy things on camera, compromising his own views on race to appease said Daddy Nigger, and then losing KoonYe completely as soon as he watched 21 Jump Street and found out that Jonah Hill was Jewish.
   

I'm not saying that "Bronze Age Pervert," or any of the other anonymous posters of whom you imagine we are mindless followers much as you are for Spic Fuentes, does anything either, but at least they don't pretend that they're "leaders of a movement." They are, like Fuentes, mere posters, internet clowns - the only difference is that Fuentes pretends to be some sort of Messianic king instead.

Quote:Well that's the thing, you fundamentally oppose people like him. He's a "facelord who encourages irl groups" and thus is the type of person you will automatically fedjacket. You don't want dissidents to have a leader or a cause. And among the leaders and causes available, Nick Fuentes and AF are the best.

As we can see here, much like the Guest in the SIEGE thread, you have no idea against whom or what you are arguing, so you stupidly assign "Bronze Age Pervert's" anti-Fuentes rhetoric to us because ???. I have never heard the term "fedjacket" in my life and nobody here talks about people being "feds" or "facelords." You are either being intentionally disingenuous here or, more likely, you are simply too stupid to know against whom you are arguing. I can effortlessly refute this passage with a single meme:

(03-30-2023, 05:12 PM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: [ -> ]tl;dr I don't care how much he's "suffered" - I only care about his results.

Well there's a lot of defamation in these paragraphs, most of it baseless and some of it borrowed from people whose entire identities revolve around hating Nick. But honestly I understand, I used to have the same stance as you. He's just some wimpy larping christcuck who starts pointless drama to feed his ego is what I thought. Nick Fuentes is a homosexual pedophile under FBI investigation. Catboys, tranny porn, nigger rap. These ideas were comforting to me. But then I grew tired of the hatred and infighting. In a fucked up society of trannies and kikes, you have these White men attacking each other over petty meaningless drama. You say Nick is petty, but how petty is it to launch constant smears against him time and time again when he's supposedly just some lolcow borrowing all his talking points from /pol/. This act of yours like your beyond normal human sensibilities is just a facade. What do you expect his talking points to sound like? A schizo prophet who just descended from a 5 year stay at an isolated camp in the mountains? What's really exciting about that? What's remotely practical about that?

Under all the smears your "critiques" have become disingenuous. You want Fuentes to do "real work", whatever that means. I know what you people's idea of "real work" is and it's absolutely retarded. You'd turn Hitler away because his party was socialist, he was a vegetarian, and he didn't have kids. Nick puts in the work where it counts, his ideas are concrete, eloquent, and uncompromising. Something you'd never see come out of /pol/. What do even mean Fuentes pretends he's a Messianic king? If you've ever actually seen the show, he's very open aboutbthe fact that he's just one guy giving his opinions and that it was only reluctantly that he was forced to carry an entirely new movement on his shoulders. He would've been just another writer for the Daily Wire or Trump fanboy talking head if he hadn't discovered the truth and realized that people deserved to know about it. He threw everything away and you just dismiss this. Any nutjob can throw their life away sure, but who can come back from that and build the only movement that survived the collapse of the alt right and now serves a pivotal role in waking people up to insidious jewish influence in America? You can say Fuentes is just the same loser as any anon, but unlike other anons he has the skills and vision required to actually lead people. You faggots don't even view jews as an enemy. It's actually sickening to me that creatures like you are allowed to crawl around freely spitting venom from your gay sex fanclub.

^Mostly reasonable post. I stand by my critiques of Nick and will say that he is quite petty, vindictive, and narcissistic, but we shouldn't smear him with bad faith bullshit like that he watches tranny porn or "COONyay watched 21 jump st and now he loves jews therefore nick is bad!" (yay always maintained that he tries to love everyone and that he *especially* loves Hitler, afaik he hasn't walked that back, and Nick isn't responsible for everything he does). Let's try to keep the critiques of him well-reasoned and well-intentioned. He is basically Norwood 1.5 and getting coaler week by week, but there's still hope for him as a SYM.

(03-30-2023, 07:34 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ]^Mostly reasonable post. I stand by my critiques of Nick and will say that he is quite petty, vindictive, and narcissistic, but we shouldn't smear him with bad faith bullshit like that he watches tranny porn or "COONyay watched 21 jump st and now he loves jews therefore nick is bad!" (yay always maintained that he tries to love everyone and that he *especially* loves Hitler, afaik he hasn't walked that back, and Nick isn't responsible for everything he does). Let's try to keep the critiques of him well-reasoned and well-intentioned. He is basically Norwood 1.5 and getting coaler week by week, but there's still hope for him as a SYM.

Thank you for a fair and balanced response. It is unfortunate that some more bad faith elements seeped into my post. I share your occasional liking of Nick as a person, but I absolutely despise his groidper orbiters. My feelings for the latter seem to have tainted my analysis of the former. Let's all #PrayForNick.

P.S. I didn't bring up Coon-Yay and his stupidity to try and say that Nick was responsible for that, but rather to criticize Nick's judgement in that case. He gave into the bad tastes of his lower (urban/Mexican) nature and jumped at the opportunity to tie himself and his "Movement" to the antics of an unstable and mentally ill racial inferior.

Is this subject really that interesting? I struggle to read anything which gives off a sighing tone. Something like 2/3 of our Guests sound like my high school English teacher.

If you want to participate in this can you please make a thread or go to that one we already have? This thread is intended to be above and about this kind of idiocy. Please stop touching the fauna.

"Subjugation of the many in service of the few" is a good approximation of BAP's core tenets, and sounds about as Jewish as "gefilte fish". I think it's pretty well-established that we are dealing with Costin Alamariu, here, who at the very least is "Israel-adjacent": what this means for the #SensitiveYoungMen I could not say.

His purported grift is not readily apparent to me, anyway. I don't know what his main detractors really say about him, either, and the fixation on his Jewishness is beating a dead horse, at this point.

Does he want white men further atomized and degenerated, moving away from establishing familial bonds, and instead travelling the world as an international hedonist as he is? I don't know - it's hard to say. Words are subversive - he can say one thing, but it can have an opposing effect. I don't know; it's left a bad taste in my mouth.

(03-31-2023, 01:59 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]"Subjugation of the many in service of the few" is a good approximation of BAP's core tenets, and sounds about as Jewish as "gefilte fish". I think it's pretty well-established that we are dealing with Costin Alamariu, here, who at the very least is "Israel-adjacent": what this means for the #SensitiveYoungMen I could not say.

His purported grift is not readily apparent to me, anyway. I don't know what his main detractors really say about him, either, and the fixation on his Jewishness is beating a dead horse, at this point.

Does he want white men further atomized and degenerated, moving away from establishing familial bonds, and instead travelling the world as an international hedonist as he is? I don't know - it's hard to say. Words are subversive - he can say one thing, but it can have an opposing effect. I don't know; it's left a bad taste in my mouth.

BAP believes in some kind of 'natural order' of aristocracy, and he happens to be Jewish and yet another descendent of a 'Holocaust victim' or 'survivor' (I forget which, it's all the same in my mind, it was such a crazy time). So if that doesn't arouse suspicion, I don't know what to tell you. BAP has a lot of good qualities but he is just not a political friend of mine as an American and a Christian. Fuentes clearly is, for all his faults. Of course he is kind of a clown, but I don't see why there need be metapolitical slapfights over podcasters, as if they're budding emperors. 

Fuentes was really born to be a news guy, or the governor of Illinois or something. If in 20 years things radically change, that's all but certain to happen. He is the most canceled man in America, and BAP is already quasi-mainstreamed — as an official 'rogue' or 'radical' — precisely because he's Jewish and relatively elite, not a middle-class white Christian from the Midwest. You can see his beliefs getting shittier and Jewier over time. He also never presented as Jewish and still conspicuously ignores the whole doxxing issue while his nutholders cope awkwardly about it. He is a smart, funny guy, and probably a nice guy (Nice guy? I don't give a shit, go home and play with your kids.), but he is fundamentally a kind of liar in my view.

(03-31-2023, 09:42 AM)honey moon groyper Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-31-2023, 01:59 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]. . . we are dealing with Costin Alamariu, here . . .

 The extent to which this has actually been verified is dubious. As far as I know, some people saw Costin's name on their receipts for their podcast subscription. For all we know, Costin could be a friend of BAP's that helps with the show. BAP has referred to people helping him with the show before and he is a self-admitted opsec freak. He also encourages everyone else to be. Let me know if I am missing anything.

Yes, BAP's friend just happens to be a middle aged Romanian Yale graduate like he is.

The Whole BAP vs Fuentes thing is Gay and subversive. So is most of the Slander that is targeted at Fuentes. The trannie porn/gay thing is anti-incel slander. Nick listening to rap and worshiping coonye was ignorable before he positioned his movement against White Racial Interest. The only Pertinent Critique about Fuentes is that he has betrayed the White Race and chosen the “Based Black Christian multi-Racial working class” side. And he seems everyday to continuously be pulled further in that direction. I’m not saying Nick has to scream TND at the top of his lungs but he needs to internalize it’s Message: that niggers are not sacred and it would not matter if we killed them all. 

With BAP he works as more of an Erza Pound type character. He only has one work and is on his radio station(podcast) while in-between on twitter using his large account to promote smaller voices and connect different accounts audiences. I do not think any important critiques towards him Exist. 

The Whole Nick Vs BAP subversives Slander does not really lead anywhere positive. Fuentes Messed up and it’s Important to recognize this, it’s never been anything beyond this. Remember, petty feuds are for niggers, the more you participate in petty fields the closer you position yourself towards niggers.

(03-31-2023, 01:32 PM)honey moon groyper Wrote: [ -> ]You're putting the cart before the horse. People found the Yale dissertation after name searching Costin after the podcast receipts came out. There is no reason to believe that BAP is a Yale grad unless you already believe he is Costin.

BAP has high profile connections in the conservative academic sphere, he even published a book. It's obvious he's not some working class frog. Then you factor in his Romanian accent. Then you factor in his support for Zionism and his bashing of traditionalism/Catholicism. He has been open about his jewishness and homoeroticism, albeit somewhat "ironically", and you think he isn't stupid enough to leave breadcrumbs back to his real identity?

(03-31-2023, 01:58 PM)Reverend Moon Immortal Wrote: [ -> ]Remember, petty feuds are for niggers, the more you participate in petty fields the closer you position yourself towards niggers.

Ergo Africa First(If it is somehow not apparent from the speech patterns were ebonic going back to the "groyper war") is for niggers. Africa First could shove off and stop it any time but a movement based on twitch bloodsports and the after image of serious American rightist. I am at a lost to the people here who think someone who recently very recently(Just to name one embarrassing failure of many) went all in on the presidential campaign of an loon nigger certain to be condemned and then forgotten as it happens in America, somehow had the skills to be GOVERNOR when he can't even make a stream with more pull than boobie streamers on twitch let alone anything by con Inc. I have said more than enough on the topic over these months but I once again appeal to any reasonable man's sense why do you support(or even hand it to him as it were) a man who obviously mentally and physically is a example of a ZOGed negrophile mind? If mouthing along supposed Christian words is enough you might as well praise his close confidant Ethan Ralph or any wild street preacher. Lastly if your concern is foul ideas overcoming the good in general-I need some firm evidence a direct life changed a policy overturned to consider AF not to be one of the greatest advertisements for right Nietzscheanism this century. Skinsuiting the Gospel and the Western values that flowed from it in the way they have should be considered no better or even worse than what the pride flag pastors and politicians do.

Nick (and by extension, all of AF, since AF's positions are all dependent on Nick) probably has a propensity for feuding for a few reasons...
1) 2016 /pol/ paranoia over infiltrators being jews, at which point they are anathema regardless of how useful they may be as an asset. What I want to know is if Nick genuinely thinks BAP is evil simply because he's an Israeli jew or he's using that as the most effective front because of some ulterior motive... namely that BAP criticized him before, he doesn't like BAP as a sexual deviant/supporter of pagan morality, etc...
2) Residual fear over the intense feuding with oakers/TRS. These groups were just as willing to doxx, accuse others of being hurtful to "the movement," had no long-term vision outside of immediate e-celeb dominance ("We're the true head of the alt-right!"), among other things. The "battle hardening" has probably made Nick use the same attitude toward everyone else, even though him and a few people from the BAPshere could've worked together or at least shared a mutual goal.
3) Nick takes everything personally, and thus feuding with entire groups is just an anti-microcosm of his own personal beefs with specific individuals. In which case it's clear his ego influences major decisions within his entire political organization.

I'm just spitballing here. I'm fairly generous toward AF so I can easily rationalize most of the decisions Nick makes. Whether or not these are good traits to have is up to everyone else. I certainly am tired of all the feuding... or at least, I myself am of the mindset that even if someone has dual loyalties to Israel they could serve some net benefit to the cause (though, that remains to be proved with BAP... I haven't investigated any of his writings or influences.)

https://theamericansun.com/2019/08/01/ba...s-problem/

"In principle, Western nationalists should be indifferent maybe to Israel as well. Disengagement from Israel and from the Middle East should be the path forward: if Israel wants to commit suicide, or if it wants to set up a neo-Canaanite empire from the Nile to the Euphrates, let it do as it will. Let that region have its own history. But in practice we face severe opposition from Jewish organizations in the West and Jewish leadership in the West. It hardly matters to me if Israelis are “based nationalists” in their own country (they are not)."

This view, was used as a justification to allegedly unveil his identity and EXPOSE him like Antifa, does it seem remotely zionist? Or is that more a justification for people who wish to attack right nietzscheanism but don't have the intellect or patience to do so beyond slinging /pol/ buzzwords and using the tactics of the lowest script kiddies and doxers?

(03-31-2023, 06:22 PM)Kasarix Wrote: [ -> ]thus feuding with entire groups is just an anti-microcosm

*macrocosm?

Hi. Kasarix on the go.
I would pretty much agree. I was impressed to realize at the end it was BAP's own quotation. Perhaps you can use that as a strategy - quoting BAP and simply pretending it's a personal opinion.
Now, if I may appeal to authority, I contend we should detail what exactly Hitler's position was on jews both in and out of country and what was entailed with dealing with them - especially those who were "on our side." Because my assumption is it went far beyond simply opposing Jewish power locally. Now, if it is imprudent to mimic his actions in our situation today, then how and why? Genuine prompt here.

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(03-31-2023, 06:44 PM)NuclearAbsolutist Wrote: [ -> ]https://theamericansun.com/2019/08/01/ba...s-problem/

"In principle, Western nationalists should be indifferent maybe to Israel as well. Disengagement from Israel and from the Middle East should be the path forward: if Israel wants to commit suicide, or if it wants to set up a neo-Canaanite empire from the Nile to the Euphrates, let it do as it will. Let that region have its own history. But in practice we face severe opposition from Jewish organizations in the West and Jewish leadership in the West. It hardly matters to me if Israelis are “based nationalists” in their own country (they are not)."

This view, was used as a justification to allegedly unveil his identity and EXPOSE him like Antifa, does it seem remotely zionist? Or is that more a justification for people who wish to attack right nietzscheanism but don't have the intellect or patience to do so beyond slinging /pol/ buzzwords and using the tactics of the lowest script kiddies and doxers?

I don't get it. In this article he shits on traditionalism and sees Israel as a potential partner for white nationalists in the US. BAP's views are fundamentally different from many on the DR, he is an "intellectual Nietzshcean" while others are just patriotic and religious. BAP has a jewish elitist outlook, seeing religions and ideologies as useful tools to be manipulated. And in this article he openly states he condones white nationalists being manipulated by Israel.

“But where possible, in private, American patriots should lean on Hazony and especially his donors and handlers to call out, in public, and denounce and disavow the anti-nationalist Jewish leadership in America and Europe. And these must be called out as Jews, namely Hazony, his funders, and Netanyahu should openly say that these very destructive organizations and individuals are a shame to the Jewish nation and are disavowed, and call upon average Jews in the West to reject them.”

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"If the price for the future you wanted was to become Jewish, would you pay this price?"
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(03-31-2023, 06:59 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]BAP's views are fundamentally different from many on the DR, he is an "intellectual Nietzshcean" while others are just patriotic and religious. BAP has a jewish elitist outlook, seeing religions and ideologies as useful tools to be manipulated.

"BAP has actual ideas that aren't just the unquestioned, thoughtless sentiments of peasants, therefore he bad."

I have also noticed an interesting way by which hylics attempt to smuggle egalitarian communism into nominally right-wing thought: they call all aristocratic, Meritocratic, or elitist programs or impulses "Jewish" without elaboration. Apparently Jews invented having standards and some people having higher IQs or genetic potential than others. Or something.

(03-31-2023, 01:58 PM)Reverend Moon Immortal Wrote: [ -> ]The Whole BAP vs Fuentes thing is Gay and subversive. So is most of the Slander that is targeted at Fuentes. The trannie porn/gay thing is anti-incel slander. Nick listening to rap and worshiping coonye was ignorable before he positioned his movement against White Racial Interest. The only Pertinent Critique about Fuentes is that he has betrayed the White Race and chosen the “Based Black Christian multi-Racial working class” side. And he seems everyday to continuously be pulled further in that direction. I’m not saying Nick has to scream TND at the top of his lungs but he needs to internalize it’s Message: that niggers are not sacred and it would not matter if we killed them all. 

With BAP he works as more of an Erza Pound type character. He only has one work and is on his radio station(podcast) while in-between on twitter using his large account to promote smaller voices and connect different accounts audiences. I do not think any important critiques towards him Exist. 

The Whole Nick Vs BAP subversives Slander does not really lead anywhere positive. Fuentes Messed up and it’s Important to recognize this, it’s never been anything beyond this. Remember, petty feuds are for niggers, the more you participate in petty fields the closer you position yourself towards niggers.

If we must carry on with this I'll repeat myself, this post being a good enough one to bounce off of.

Has anybody here mentioned those phone screenshots or whatever it was Fuentes was supposedly looking at? I know I haven't. And not because I'm playing by some kind of Samurai honour code. It's because I don't care. The charge from here (more specifically, myself) is that he's a vapid moron. Everyone playing at big-P Politics online and only Politics is sub-useless vermin in my eyes. What good is a "MOVEMENT" which doesn't MOVE? If Fuentes is justified by his sincerity (ha) and his dedication to real politics, why should he be given any credit before he accomplishes anything? The meaningful difference between him and some mid 20th century American Maoist newsletter printer is a superior ability to convince warehouse slaves to give him their money. (largely enabled by the internet, which is easy mode by comparison).

By contrast I would say BAP's front is not Politics. It's hearts and minds and culture. Attack the legitimacy of the system through demonstrations of superiority. I wouldn't say he's like Pound because BAP is not an artist, he's an agitator and a kind of journalist. Pound was an artist of extreme historic significance and did more for the living arts than anybody alive can probably claim. BAP retweeting a kickstarter for Delicious Tacos to pretend to make a movie with his retarded RW fag-hag De Vere Ball friends is not comparable to Pound's contributions to culture.

I actually have rather serious problems with BAP and they all come back to this. He allowed his objections to the corruption of the system to be perverted into axioms, and now he accrues moronic and perverted parasites just like the system. Yes it's disgusting that universities tell you Bell Hooks is an intellectual. But BAP tells you (through affirming silence) that MedGold is dissident philosophy. At this point can we still claim this is about superiority? Or have we already degenerated to envy and jostling for privilege within a broken system? BAP himself has become corrupt before even acquiring institutional power.

Fighting over PURITY within a political movement which doesn't move is moronic. But this doesn't mean the idea of purity is moronic. There's a place for it. And that place is in this struggle for hearts and minds and culture. If we are out to demonstrate superiority. Demonstrate it because we believe in it. That is when we seek purity. Both because it's necessary and because it's good. If you actually care about good and fine forces prevailing again you shouldn't want garbage around. And if the goal is to be an example of superiority they hurt you, they tarnish good work. 

Are we right and good, so we deserve power? Or do we want power, and so say we are right and good?

I believe that BAP has the right approach, which he compromised on far too early for no discernable reason (if someone has an idea why, please share). If the system is corrupt, on what grounds do we challenge it? By not being corrupt. We are the real thinkers, the real artists, the real human quality. A lean and discriminating force against a bloated complacent blob. That's the ideal. But the discrimination has apparently already stopped and started bleeding out purity and momentum all over the place. BAP's avenging barbarian purity has run to decadence before getting close to the heart of the rot, and now he's on track to become a sharper class of conservative commentator.

That is my problem with BAP. And what is my problem with Fuentes? He never even had purity to lose. Where is the superiority? He repeats /pol/ and E Michael Jones to stand out then eats McDonalds and posts wigger spongebob memes about how cool Ye is.

Ezra Pound is on neither side of this argument. And Ezra Pound is what I'm looking for. So I really don't care about either of these two. BAP is disappointing. Fuentes is just revolting. I intend to post some more on this idea of a pure objecting class of person in the future. Maybe in relation to some things I'm reading right now.

(03-31-2023, 11:05 PM)JohnnyRomero Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-31-2023, 06:59 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]BAP's views are fundamentally different from many on the DR, he is an "intellectual Nietzshcean" while others are just patriotic and religious. BAP has a jewish elitist outlook, seeing religions and ideologies as useful tools to be manipulated.

"BAP has actual ideas that aren't just the unquestioned, thoughtless sentiments of peasants, therefore he bad."

I have also noticed an interesting way by which hylics attempt to smuggle egalitarian communism into nominally right-wing thought: they call all aristocratic, Meritocratic, or elitist programs or impulses "Jewish" without elaboration. Apparently Jews invented having standards and some people having higher IQs or genetic potential than others. Or something.

Yes it is BAP's gay ideals that people have a problem with. You're starting to understand.

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It's actually so funny. Superior people don't need entire all of these intricate articles and bloated books in order to establish their superiority. It's like Tate prancing around calling himself an alpha male. Why are you telling people you are superior? You want them to come groveling at your feet for forgiveness, or are you just some larping halfwit trying to get a grift going? "Here's why working class people trying to do well for themselves is actually hecking bad." If you adore meritocracy so much go tell it to your local billionaire and try to get buddy buddy with him.