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(09-14-2023, 10:20 PM)august Wrote: [ -> ]If it said "Amarna forum spent too much time trying to get into trannies' heads instead of lopping them off simply treating them as mental cases" the meaning would've been exactly the same. It's a little bit like the Chekhov story where the peasant just can't seem to understand why he isn't allowed to remove the nuts from the train tracks to use as fishing weight, and the judge is equally as dumbfounded as to how the peasant doesn't see why doing so is a problem. They're on two completely different wavelengths, and there's nothing that can be done that will suddenly reconcile this cognitive disconnect. To be curt, I just don't want much to do with trannies of any stripe or alleged ideological affiliation, and I think it's a waste of time to spill the same old pseudo-psychoanalytical ink again and again giving them so much attention -- which is, of course, what they want, by the way -- because this is what happens when people do. 
I don't wish to bother quibbling over something you've clarified because I took it quite literally, so I'll just move on to what I wish to raise. 
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(From here, which I highly recommend clicking around https://outforamerica.org/)

I think the ship has sailed in terms of simply ignoring it. At least we can say the American, and thus most of the worlds general public have certainly taken the opposite bent(Forming into two camps, one which has created what I linked, the other laser focused on these people, but in of course a NOT INTOLERANT manner, but a just asking questions manner.) You can of course abstain from this yet, but I think it is least a interesting exercise in tracing the dominoes mental and otherwise that led to this current condition as it is I believe alien to millennia of history and most predictions of our current era.

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BAP offered me milk and sugarz and then rayped me while talking on the phone with a chaga supplier. It's over.
(09-15-2023, 02:33 AM)NuclearAbsolutist Wrote: [ -> ][Image: j0GnuGX.png]
(From here, which I highly recommend clicking around https://outforamerica.org/)

I think the ship has sailed in terms of simply ignoring it. At least we can say the American, and thus most of the worlds general public have certainly taken the opposite bent(Forming into two camps, one which has created what I linked, the other laser focused on these people, but in of course a NOT INTOLERANT manner, but a just asking questions manner.) You can of course abstain from this yet, but I think it is least a interesting exercise in tracing the dominoes mental and otherwise that led to this current condition as it is I believe alien to millennia of history and most predictions of our current era.

One thing about this type of data is that one of its less explicit goals is to demoralise anyone that stands in Fag World's way. The name of the thinktank/PAC is literally "LGBTQ+ Victory Institute" -- the only dominoes that you need to trace are that economic/class revolution failed, so the attention of the ~bolshevik revolutionary~ strategy just switched its focus to minorities, women, and homos, i.e., the "oppressed" by way of their "identity" which are both empty and meaningless words that have no historical veracity.

That chart shows data from 2017 to 2022... pretty astronomical growth which is, by the very nature of what we are discussing, impossible to maintain. Even if I give LGBTQ+ Victory Institute the benefit of the doubt and assume that their political success will continue, that has to rely on the assumption that most people in, say America, decide to truly accept having tranny overlords. The great part about having acquaintances from across the entire social strata is that you quickly realise that many average normies consider these people mentally insane and would very easily allow the dominoes to start falling in the other direction if the opportunity would only just present itself.

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A clearly very epistemologically unique, rather intelligent character had a blog. Weird thing is that the archive is archived like every day for a year before it presumably went down.

https://web.archive.org/web/202306010441...l-warfare/
longwinded ass boring libtard tranny BS for the most part. ctrl + f to skip to this paragraph and probably skip the rest too? their other posts are probably more interesting that this tranny one.
"When I was a pre-teen, I thought I was the only one who knew puberty was evil, puberty was death, hormones were not part of the soul"
(09-18-2023, 08:18 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]A clearly very epistemologically unique, rather intelligent character had a blog. Weird thing is that the archive is archived like every day for a year before it presumably went down.

https://web.archive.org/web/202306010441...l-warfare/
longwinded ass boring libtard tranny BS for the most part. ctrl + f to skip to this paragraph and probably skip the rest too? their other posts are probably more interesting that this tranny one.
"When I was a pre-teen, I thought I was the only one who knew puberty was evil, puberty was death, hormones were not part of the soul"
That blog is an interesting find. It seems like this kind of thinking may have lead to homicide?

https://zizians.info/
https://web.archive.org/web/202302010442...i/glossary
https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-commun...c100180509

I find extreme thinking that leads people to acts of violence interesting but this seems too convoluted to be worth it.

Guest

Quote:In Zizian thought this concept is expanded to justify behavior that would make a Sovereign Citizen blush. Zizians do not think it is ever valid to surrender. The reasoning goes that if someone is trying to extract a surrender from you, giving in is choosing a strategy that gets coerced into surrender. If you fight bitterly you prevent the coercion in the first place by making it too costly to fight you. (Associated phrases: "nosell"; "collapse the timeline"Wink

Quote:I think if nongoods took vengeance, even in a disorganized fashion, without crippling self-doubt about whether they were justified, then vampireland would not have come about.

holy based

and apparently they aren't even tranny-presenting under the logic of "no-sell" or whatever. Imagine for a moment a strong bearded dude telling silicon valley twinks that they are women, keeping them up all night for spiritual reasons, writing an autistic blog about le morality and eventually escaping the trail of gaslit 'cides by faking his own death. Dr. Soyberg strikes again!

That said: yeah, the posts are not as interesting as I thought they might be from that altitude. it is basically just roko basilisk except they don't care if you know about the punishment or not. That clarification would be the one interesting thing that might be worthwhile but it is unexplored and the post where it should be was never made or at least archived- plus it was named after the multiverse concept which smacks of pleroma principle of explosion garbage. the character ziz doesn't seem that interesting either anymore, just another quirky psycho.
(09-18-2023, 08:18 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]A clearly very epistemologically unique, rather intelligent character had a blog. Weird thing is that the archive is archived like every day for a year before it presumably went down.

https://web.archive.org/web/202306010441...l-warfare/
longwinded ass boring libtard tranny BS for the most part. ctrl + f to skip to this paragraph and probably skip the rest too? their other posts are probably more interesting that this tranny one.
"When I was a pre-teen, I thought I was the only one who knew puberty was evil, puberty was death, hormones were not part of the soul"

Here are some related posts I found memorable: Aliveness, Vampires And More Undeath

I like his categorization of "undead types", here's a list from the glossary:

Quote:Living

From this post, the (null) undead type of someone not exposed to the Shade. I.e. sheltered children.

Zombie

From this post, the most common undead type, substantive cognitive agency is disassembled in fear/pain (probably actually fear/pain as survival agency in the brain’s native interpretation-as-values, but that does not ). May manifest compute in a sandbox, i.e. be a programmer, but cannot use much intelligence towards the root of the call stack of agency. Alignment is always neutral.

Corpse

From this post, the extrapolated end-state of the zombie path of rot. Here the literal meaning and metaphorical meaning converge.

Lich

From this post, someone who manages to stave off exposure to the Shade by sealing their soul in a vessel called a phylactery, thereby retaining their life-force, so long as the phylactery is unbroken. (In mythology, the lich cannot be killed while the phylactery survives.) In the limit of a perfect phylactery, approaches living. Selected by the requirement of this process for intelligence and mental arts. Alignment is any nongood. (While the creation of a phylactery is not inherently evil as in many stories, it is inherently suboptimally good, and unnecessary for a good soul to retain agency; see revenant) In the scope of flaws to the phylactery, will act Leverage!connection-theory-esque. Often less suited to short term combat than vampires, but is the most powerful (known) nongood undead type when measured over the long game.

Revenant

A form of undead created by a choice that some change to the world is important enough to turn away from heaven in full knowledge and damn themselves, seemingly. In fiction there are both good and nongood revenants, but IRL I have only met good ones. Proceeding on the assumption there are no nongood ones, the rules of being a revenant are basically a consequence of a good core-structure system not having a stable state at arbitrary amounts of damage where the healing stops, because the vastness of the world always contains the majority of possible utility. Tends to develop structure in a strange inversion of death knight structure. Like being in the same place but having chosen it and not regretting. Mythologically, is essentially a broken body being dragged about by a soul that cannot break, forming something with no more or less powers than a very determined person who can’t die. A revenant’s healing is goal-directed. A side effect of the body being dragged, and intends to converge on completing the quest rather than achieving wholeness. Their bodies tend to remain rotten and incomplete. Otherwise, they would be phoenixes.

Mummy

An undead type between lich and zombie, that fails at preservation of deep optimization like liches, but preserves a lot of intact surface structure. Where liches retain the ability to act on hope, mummies don’t but retain the ability to act on fun. See e.g. Randall Munroe, Zach Weinersmith, the cool old mariners that exercised original agency enough to learn to blackmail ghouls we met in the course of Rationalist Fleet. The only remotely common undead type fit for building things. Not remotely capable of standing up to vampireland in its entirety. So they build vampireland’s tech for them. But if you’ve seen lich revenant or phoenix built tech there’s no compare. Check out normie “#vanlife” stuff for examples of mummy optimization.

Vampire

An undead type based on having been broken into the service of a pattern of structure called “the Beast”. Take blood. Something needed by others to survive which does you no good. Do harm to others wherever possible. In a picafied bid for wholeness through social power. Seem strangely obsessed with sex for sapient undead. Obsessed with consuming the blood of the living. Would be probably the third weakest undead type (after zombie and ghoul), except for their ability to reproduce by breaking others like them, and by extension create vampireland. This is an ability not really under their control.

See e.g. Jeffrey Epstein. See also. There are also lone wolf vampires, known as serial killers.

Ghoul

An undead type between vampire and zombie. Follows the beast like vampires but has disassembled agency like zombies. The undead type of middle management and cops. And Donald Trump.

Death Knight

An inverted undead type based on broken desire to die instead of broken desire to live. The undead type of school shooters, Elliot Rodgers, and likely Hitler (although for infohazardous elaboration on that, see here). They serve the Shade very directly. Note the tendency to blow their brains out afterward.

Phoenix

A good undead type based on a bet that their personal death is not defeat for their values, because others will rise and take their place.

Despite it being a little cartoonish and arbitrary I find this to be a pretty great taxonomy of the different kinds of behaviors adults tend to adopt to cope with the realities of life, but I also think his views on this topic may have been overly pessimistic due to his status as a mentally ill troon living surrounded by mentally ill troons. It's probably not that hard to stay "living" throughout adulthood, although many normies would seem to fall into these undead categories.

The split hemisphere thing was the main other concept he wrote about, which despite being a funny piece of troll science I don't find as interesting to read about.

More quotes that I found funny:

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https://youtu.be/IAA1XtDOuH8
New Trans kino just dropped
(11-17-2023, 11:35 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/IAA1XtDOuH8
New Trans kino just dropped

This person gets exactly the same kinds of comments as Hazel (He/Himzel).
Guest Wrote:https://youtu.be/IAA1XtDOuH8
New Trans kino just dropped

I saw this video a while ago and what I noticed at the end is how much "becoming trans" for him appears to be about crafting a sentimental narrative of his own life.

I don't think the Blanchard typology really gets to the heart of the matter because when sexual desire is treated as a sufficient explanation for transgenderism, then sexual desire is treated as a black box instead of a mask that other desires wear.

I think much of trannydom is really a desire to make life imitate kitsch.

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Mason Hall-McCullough Wrote:
Guest Wrote:A clearly very epistemologically unique, rather intelligent character had a blog. Weird thing is that the archive is archived like every day for a year before it presumably went down.

https://web.archive.org/web/202306010441...l-warfare/
longwinded ass boring libtard tranny BS for the most part. ctrl + f to skip to this paragraph and probably skip the rest too? their other posts are probably more interesting that this tranny one.
"When I was a pre-teen, I thought I was the only one who knew puberty was evil, puberty was death, hormones were not part of the soul"

Here are some related posts I found memorable: Aliveness, Vampires And More Undeath

I like his categorization of "undead types", here's a list from the glossary:

Schizophrenic wordcel troons - truly there is nothing worse online. And probably in real life as well.
(11-17-2023, 02:01 PM)obscurefish Wrote: [ -> ]
Guest Wrote:https://youtu.be/IAA1XtDOuH8
New Trans kino just dropped

I saw this video a while ago and what I noticed at the end is how much "becoming trans" for him appears to be about crafting a sentimental narrative of his own life.

I don't think the Blanchard typology really gets to the heart of the matter because when sexual desire is treated as a sufficient explanation for transgenderism, then sexual desire is treated as a black box instead of a mask that other desires wear.

I think much of trannydom is really a desire to make life imitate kitsch.

Are you familiar with Hazel? The same type so what you've written here is an excellent rundown on their thing too. Constructed sentimental storytelling focused on themselves. You're right that it's not a sex thing. These people are online crypto asexual pervert types. For these people trooning out resembles becoming a born again christian or something more than developing an extreme sexual paraphilia.

Why I can't stand these people and consider Hazel an enemy of culture is that the narrative is a lie, and seeks to expand outwards to integrate more things into itself. Hazel wants to be the cultural canon official western interpreter of FLCL, but cannot and will not be actually honest about any part of their life when they were engaging with the thing, despite the fact they are selling this idea of an authentic and touching story of a true past encounter with this thing. It's a nostalgia piece. Nostalgia being a very fake and insidious feeling of course in our culture. Always attached to some project of this type.




It's playing sinister games with authenticity, nostalgia, what things mean to us. Look at the comments. These people want to be lied to. Hazel looks like an amish guy in a wig but people play along with this fantasy of cool big sister figure girl next door who wears big hoodies and shows you her collection of cool 90s anime on VHS.

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I don't mean to be petty. Obviously the man looks like a man. But I mean to draw attention to the gulf between the fantasy this channel sells and reality. This is an uncomfortable truth. It's uncomfortable to think that individual men are doing this to themselves. It's almost maddening to think they can do this to our culture too. If he's not stopped Hazel is going to write our official history of what the 2000s meant. Not just for himself, but for everyone. Look at his comments. He's already doing it.
anthony Wrote:
obscurefish Wrote:
Guest Wrote:https://youtu.be/IAA1XtDOuH8
New Trans kino just dropped

I saw this video a while ago and what I noticed at the end is how much "becoming trans" for him appears to be about crafting a sentimental narrative of his own life.

I don't think the Blanchard typology really gets to the heart of the matter because when sexual desire is treated as a sufficient explanation for transgenderism, then sexual desire is treated as a black box instead of a mask that other desires wear.

I think much of trannydom is really a desire to make life imitate kitsch.

Are you familiar with Hazel? The same type so what you've written here is an excellent rundown on their thing too. Constructed sentimental storytelling focused on themselves. You're right that it's not a sex thing. These people are online crypto asexual pervert types. For these people trooning out resembles becoming a born again christian or something more than developing an extreme sexual paraphilia.

Why I can't stand these people and consider Hazel an enemy of culture is that the narrative is a lie, and seeks to expand outwards to integrate more things into itself. Hazel wants to be the cultural canon official western interpreter of FLCL, but cannot and will not be actually honest about any part of their life when they were engaging with the thing, despite the fact they are selling this idea of an authentic and touching story of a true past encounter with this thing. It's a nostalgia piece. Nostalgia being a very fake and insidious feeling of course in our culture. Always attached to some project of this type.




It's playing sinister games with authenticity, nostalgia, what things mean to us. Look at the comments. These people want to be lied to. Hazel looks like an amish guy in a wig but people play along with this fantasy of cool big sister figure girl next door who wears big hoodies and shows you her collection of cool 90s anime on VHS.

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I don't mean to be petty. Obviously the man looks like a man. But I mean to draw attention to the gulf between the fantasy this channel sells and reality. This is an uncomfortable truth. It's uncomfortable to think that individual men are doing this to themselves. It's almost maddening to think they can do this to our culture too. If he's not stopped Hazel is going to write our official history of what the 2000s meant. Not just for himself, but for everyone. Look at his comments. He's already doing it.
Sometimes on the Internet I come across people who are what you might call "adult chuunibyou," by which I mean the type of person who says he possesses dangerous occult powers or is intimately tied up with a massive conspiracies. However, even if this is embarrassing to see grown men doing I can't help but sympathize with it to a degree. Maybe trying to live a life entirely without fantasy is like trying to live on a planet without air.

I don't understand the appeal of mawkish troonery but maybe part of it is that it allows for the socially acceptable construction of a fantasy identity. You can be a "cool weaboo big sister" and not get made fun of for it, unlike claiming that you personally executed half a dozen KGB assassins with your Deagle while on the run in Panama.

Or, in some cases there's a certain kind of man who may be "delusional" by normal standards but whose refusal to conform to who he "really is" in the eyes of others stems from fidelity to a higher ideal. There could be a relative absence of this type in today's society that is contributing to transgenderism.

Guest

Being delusional is keyed, trying to be delusional but in a way that society allows is kiked.

Guest

obscurefish Wrote:Sometimes on the Internet I come across people who are what you might call "adult chuunibyou," by which I mean the type of person who says he possesses dangerous occult powers or is intimately tied up with a massive conspiracies. However, even if this is embarrassing to see grown men doing I can't help but sympathize with it to a degree. 

It’s probably best not to sympathize with actual schizophrenics or megalomaniacs. Sure, on the surface their behavior looks like a fun act filled with vitality and ludic charm, but one should not underestimate the gulf between individual experience, especially when so many ‘normal’ people already hold a tenuous relationship with reality.
obscurefish Wrote:I think much of trannydom is really a desire to make life imitate kitsch.
NuclearAbsolutist Wrote:
Guest Wrote:If you want to understand a hobby, you need only look at its demographics: it wasn't by chance that this so-called "Great Trannification" took place.

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"You see if den trannies were REAL MEN they would not go that way!"
Tabletop wargaming grew out of the needs and plans of European officers and then hopped over to being a gentleman hobby played by limelight figures such as H.G Wells. Decades latter after the rise of a few key technologies you would have young white college aged men in the midwest interested in middle ages Europe both in history and fantasy make rules for a game where you were the protagonists in the underworld and then rose up to being generals(Usually meeting a fun and violent end quite a few times beforehand at the hands of the DM). At the most conceptually grand with a lot of pen and paper there could be dozens of players on the same world questing and having some fun at weekends. Unless your a stoic nigger who should shortcut to what his forbears abysmal analysis in the Okhrana lead to and get himself shot by Jews, it should be quite apparent there's nothing wrong with TTRPGs or a magic trans essence that only just now truly revealed itself 48 years later from D&D's release which is the case for all culture. Something has instead happened to the people to change them. What that might be?
This is a question I think gets closer to the heart of the matter. Some people say that men go MtF because they are failures, but that doesn't explain guys who are conventionally successful and follow that same path. There must be a more general explanation that unites both of these cases.

My view is that trannydom is the product of a silent epidemic of "writer's block" that has infected our culture without anyone noticing. It is not just the people who put words into books that are writers, but every man is the author of his own life. The culture of our times is so intellectually stifling that the self-development of human beings is limited and transgenderism is a perversion of the drive of life for growth under these conditions, like topiary for people.

The 2002 film Adaptation is about a man suffering from writer's block while writing the movie he is in. Eventually, the film ends up succumbing to all the Hollywood cliches he sought to avoid. I think that "trannification" is a process like this that has irrupted into our culture. Cultural stagnation actually causes mental illness.
obscurefish Wrote:...


I think you have part of it, and I do believe that culture plays a role, as I've written earlier in this thread - but the personal experiences which really drive on most cases are extremely psychosexual in nature. I dislike putting too much emphasis on autogynephilia, but I do not believe in diminishing it either.

Here is an interesting though experiment to consider: Suppose the rights of women were realigned back to a pre 18th century level, tolerance of transsexuality was still permitted - but on the caveat that the tranny had their rights reduced to that of women. Something akin to Iran. How would that effect transition rates?

My perspective: Female power - especially female sexual power - is prominent in our world. Someone who has a sexuality that self-projects onto this does not feel any implicit sacrifice or loss in their transition --- Only gain. Ex-military alpha males who transition are of course still alpha and dominant in personality and demeanor. If anything, they often feel more so. Understand the origins come in a desire to be this:

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Or this - 

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Or her - 

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These kind of images should maybe convey a mood. On a subconscious level, it is how trannies arrive at the process of aligning their sexual desires/tastes with the willing abnegation of their maleness (which lacks power to them). As such, it is less of a drive towards being a total submissive sex toy (though they do often desire that - they do not desire it completely), and more with the weight that comes with being sexually desired as such (this holds power to them). 

I've known a shitload of porn trannies and they often do porn - not for money - but for their own ego and a sense of power. There is a sublimation in this, but it is difficult to see from the outside.
(11-20-2023, 11:55 PM)obscurefish Wrote: [ -> ]This is a question I think gets closer to the heart of the matter. Some people say that men go MtF because they are failures, but that doesn't explain guys who are conventionally successful and follow that same path. There must be a more general explanation that unites both of these cases.

My view is that trannydom is the product of a silent epidemic of "writer's block" that has infected our culture without anyone noticing. It is not just the people who put words into books that are writers, but every man is the author of his own life. The culture of our times is so intellectually stifling that the self-development of human beings is limited and transgenderism is a perversion of the drive of life for growth under these conditions, like topiary for people.

The 2002 film Adaptation is about a man suffering from writer's block while writing the movie he is in. Eventually, the film ends up succumbing to all the Hollywood cliches he sought to avoid. I think that "trannification" is a process like this that has irrupted into our culture. Cultural stagnation actually causes mental illness.

This explains a lot of extreme character turns that can take place in a person's life. Normal life paths have been debased and devalued to the point unquestioningly adopting one at this point is sort of like taking a biblical punishment upon yourself. "This is awful but it is my lot in life, who am I to complain?"

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Even if this guy gets married is anything better? We're just delaying some kind of serious dissatisfaction break. Women and their enablers will just raise the bar and say this employed man who has his own home is a loser because women can sense his lowstatusdysgenics but everyone knows something is wrong now. I think that access to a satisfying normal life is pretty much cut off now. The last generation are through the door and it's closed.

If you want to move beyond this what are your radical life authoring options? I see religion. Trying to dig up what you think is the corpse of our old standards to make your misery really matter again like it's supposed to (in practice you are now surrounded by unenthusiastic browns in some church that feels like a school library irl, surrounded by status-whoring women telling you it's lowstatusunchristlike to notice human insanity and dangerous social tendencies online), or you can become some kind of "nazi" or other politics weirdo online and cast yourself in resistance, try to reclaim some dignity in directly liking what you like and thinking straight and sanely (there are also women here too trying to soul-trap you doing the exact same thing as in the prior case). Or you can try to secular sigma male charactermaxx, be the best you you can be. Alone. But there are so many taboos and social landmines in the path of trying to live for yourself that if you don't want to end up in camp Nazi you have to compromise so hard that you might as well have just become a male feminist with an interest in liberation theology. Because that's what they'll turn you into. As came up in the thread with Vinland Saga, there's a fascination with that kind of character. A kind of perfected warehouse man wanderer who seeks to disturb nobody and just go on his way. But that's simply impossible. No matter what you're into this stuff finds you there. Trying to expand yourself and grow into a fuller idea of a man without stepping on any of this stuff leads to insanity like Jon Bernthal's BURN LOCAL hat.

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While looking up the last movie I saw on letterboxd I found that one of the top reviews was a bunch of unhinged ranting from a deranged tranny communist poweruser a friend showed me a while back. We were laughing, but this character basically has the run of the site and can destroy you if he feels like it. And he thinks that your genuine and natural thoughts and opinions on a large number of subjects are genociding him.

As Zed has already said here, it's very empowering to be a tranny. Yes, there's the obvious point, they have the power to nuke people on the internet. But more than that, it's a self understanding that, if embraced, allows you to basically run with all things downstream from it. Your thoughts are no longer problematic, they're wonderful. You have two hours of thoughts on how some anime relates to your coming of age and self discovery? You aren't a narcissistic pisschud who needs to grow up and learn you aren't the protagonist of life. You're a hero. Your 200k youtube subscribers and weird warehouse guy disciples will be in your youtube notifications by morning.

I feel like I'm taking a long time to get to the point here. Which is agreeing with Contrary. To expand a little, I think this is related to what I keep saying about culture. That we can't have anything nice because we've thrown walls and minefields around massive areas of genuine human nature. In addition to stifling culture, this also removes room for individual men to grow. Our combined irrational taboos and the knowledge that certain ideas and beliefs will make you an enemy of the entire polite first world are mutilating. Topiary is a very nice way of putting it. Perhaps we could get more specific in each case. American popular culture suffers under new york jew topiary, for example.

I don't know, I can't finish this thought. I just want to keep the thread rolling. I hope you enjoy the funny jon bernthal screencap.
After completing my post on Andy and Leyley(which took more than one week, I worked on it irregularly) I had a better idea of what was going inside the heads of people who make a certain type of video essay. 



I believe this video to be one of the most important videos on YouTube and I am the one who posted it on the Tranny Sociology thread(as guest) when I posted it, iirc it had about 100k views, those who take Internet Sociology seriously, must pay close attention to the video and the reactions to it. It is a piece not dedicated to the appreciation of the manga called 'Inside Mari', but for the purposes of conversion, for the purposes of persuasion. How do you persuade someone to abandon his manliness?

''The male gender is broken.''

It is over... The male gender is broken... The only way out is to abandon manliness all together, fortunately enough, the promise of happiness is there, I-I need to become my true self through transitioning.

This fantasy of salvation through transition is not exclusive to trannies.

All fantasies of salvation or redemption, stem from weakness and is another manifestation of life in decline. Think about it this way, all past religions offer some sort of salvation to their believers, how wicked they may be if they believe and dedicate themselves, they will be redeemed and attain total happiness in the after-life. The one who is asking for salvation is already seeking something he doesn't have or something they had in the past abstract things such as happiness and peace. Whatever they're seeking it is the furthest thing away from PAIN. It is tranquility, it is temperance, it is self-assurance. However this is at odds with the reality of the World.

Heraclitus Wrote:War is the father and king of all: some he has made gods, and some men; some slaves and some free.

My belief is that man is thrown into this world of strife and the strife ends when his world ends. But strife is not kind to everyone and to grow weary of the world is common. Those who are weary of the world look for salvation and the ones who are the weakest are those who grow weary of it the earliest. Every single men who has grown tired of this World is righteous and never have I felt disdain for them since they are indeed right, every single one of them! Even though they contradict each other.

Who will redeem the meek then? In the past it was something external, it was God and when the belief in God came crumbling down so did the redemption through belief in something external. However the need for Salvation did not go away, it grew ever stronger. Man is corrupt, who will save him, what will save him? These incels, they need to be saved, lest they lose their soul to demons!

However those people who are making these videos are not incels, they're corrupt, they've made compromises with the world and they want you to know that they're happy, they may never be a woman, but you will never find happiness.

Thus the plan is to convince the incel that there is something wrong with his beliefs as they're incongruent with society's values and then convince him that there is something wrong with his identity, which is upheld by his values and finally a way out, REDEMPTION through transition.

Hatred of self, desire to be someone else and Redemption through Transition. Post hoc narrative forming about how righteous they were for transitioning.

''I always preferred to play female characters in video games.''

''When I was a kid I was often mistaken for a girl.''

Is it possible to redeem incels, they ask to one another sheepishly, they've committed grave sins and ickonomy has not been kind to them, for them to transition to something socially acceptable the greatest of the sacrifices is necessary, the sacrifice of Character since their values are contradictory to ours, they must not only abandon their values but their manliness as well!

Here is my final thesis

If it is impossible to domesticate someone through socialization in offline contexts, usually through women and such, the only way to make them a 'normal' person is through the influence Virtual Dysphoria Machines, the most susceptible to those being incels, chaste young men.

I urge everyone to watch the final part of this video, after 40th minute. It is absolutely necessary that our Kino guys (maybe Anthony if this post compels him to care about the video), to make a cinematographic analysis of that final part, as a standard in autobiographical sentimental story telling accompanied by music. But I believe Ceicocat is being true to himself as a long life actor, even when telling his own story he is acting.

He is acting exactly like me when I made my post in this thread, he's an excellent liar, where I lied out of necessity since there was little to be said about Andy and LeyLey, he lied to trick and seduce.

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anthony noted on Amarna 1.0 that trannies like "mechanical dollhouse" type games, where a complex and no holds barred drama is aspired for but mediated through several layers of inhuman abstraction. E.g., in CS:GO, you use your mouse to aim at and click on (shoot at) people. You're doing it with your mouse, but this is basically how shooting people works. In Hearts of Iron 4 you win World War 2 by clicking on division templates, clicking on the button to build military factories, clicking on national focus tree buttons, etcetera in what essentially feels like turning a bunch of knobs and dials. The superficiality of winning in a game like HoI4, the distance between the actions one is ostensibly performing and the inputs one is actually making, is analogous to the distance between the tranny's actual self and their vision of themselves.

I was originally skeptical of this hypothesis, but then I remembered that trannies absolutely adore mainline Pokémon games. The turn-based combat, the grinding, trying to get the best IVs and EVs for your 'mons, all appeal to the mindset of the mechanical dollhouse fan. Relatedly, the franchise is the site of a vicious constant flame war between people who complain about newer/3D Pokémon games and people who defend the newer installments. This argument between consoomers and haters occurs vaguely along the lines of Gamergate, with Pokémon nostalgists being more right-wing-coded and defenders of the newer games being radlib trannies. You can see how this fits into the anthonian paradigm; the trannies do not ask for good graphics or animations, or a more immersive open world, or a more general changeup in the formula; they only want the mechnical dollhouse. One might say that a society of mechnical dollhouse enjoyers is a component part of the longhouse.

I have not yet done any work "in the field" to corroborate the trannified nature of the Pokémon fandom, but if you want to get started on this I'd recommend looking at communities which do Nuzlocke-type Pokémon challenges. That is where you'll find people most obsessed with the mathematical autism of Pokémon.

I happen to be someone who has put hundreds of hours into HoI4 and Pokémon respectively. I have friends who mod HoI4 and I used to binge videos from a Nuzlocke YouTuber. Perhaps I'm just a spiritual tranny, or maybe I enjoy these games on a higher level than most do. "The front line no longer cuts through the middle of society; it now runs through each one of us." I have put thousands of hours into Team Fortress 2, which is an FPS game completely outside of the mechanical longhouse genre. But then again, TF2 also has an infamously trooned out community, as far as I can tell. Why is that? In a better world actual sociologists would be researching this instead of investigating why White people were racist during the bubonic plague in England or whatever.
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