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I really don't get the blackpill. I have never had sex in my life (I'm 10 though, not sure if this matters) and I've never felt especially sad about it. The blackpill seems to just be some sort of way to make yourself sad, since there are people like me who don't have sex and are fine with this. Could you, blackpiller Guest, please explain this phenomenon (people not caring about fucking)?

(10-21-2023, 07:42 AM)Ricky23 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-21-2023, 06:15 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) >purpose to life other than reproduction
there is no other. look at animals. their entire lives revolve around this priority hierarchy:
survive -> reproduce -> create better environmental conditions for offspring/self
2+3) Lmao are you retarded, nigga? What the fuck is wrong with your reasoning? All I'm telling you is that you should stop shitting on the blackpill and trying to be this smug philosopher type, and instead accept it. Accept it because it will give you great insight into everything that's going on in the world, and for example tell you that you probably shouldn't pursue mrs. 10/10 Stacy McBreedable and you definitely shouldn't send her your life savings
you have this retarded idea that the blackpill = stop trying to get pussy, lmao. even eggman could get laid, there's just a difference between how the world treats you and what your chance is with women (this is why all he got was some BPD poon and no long term shit whatsoever.)

1) You didn't address my first point and I'm not going to repeat it here. 
2) The is a blatant motte-and-bailey, most of the blackpill premises are uncontroversial, what's controversial is the despair and bitterness that is associated with it, and that despair and bitterness comes from the conclusion that due to your looks you can't find love.

holy fucking shit faggot are you retarded? i spent a gorillion posts trying to explain to you that the blackpill is not WAAH I CANT BREED but instead an understanding of what I can and should breed with
and what, you want me to present 50 peer reviewed snopes fact checked studies to tell you that your purpose in life is to fuck and make a kid? go and take a biology class or something lmao

(10-20-2023, 11:34 AM)Ricky23 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2023, 10:07 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]new guest
1) getting pussy is the only thing, it is the most important thing
2) ???
3) stop trying to get pussy because it is impossible or whatever even though I don't know you

1) If getting pussy was the only thing in life you wouldn't waste time trying to convince me of it because it doesn't aid you in getting pussy. Otherwise it would seem you have other interests than getting pussy which implies that there are other things worth pursuing in life.
2) The blackpill formula applied to your life = you will never get pussy in your life because you are ugly, short, etc. You can say "well no we're only talking about the behavior of women and evolutionary psychology and how that relates to the sexual marketplace" or whatever, but none of that is the "hard pill to swallow" that you were making it out to be in your initial post. The "hard pill to swallow" is accepting that you will never get laid. That's the conclusion you want me to take away from the blackpill no?
3) You didn't answer the question of how this is supposed to benefit me, likely because it isn't. And for the record I'm not trying to give your prescriptions for your life I don't care about that.


For the record I am willing to continue having this argument for the rest of my life if needs be but I would appreciate it if you stopped treading over the same ground and intentionally misunderstanding me

1) it ties into my cope (finding information, talking about information) that pleases me (because of more evolutionary reasons, btw). if i had fertile poon to fuck you bet I'd be doing it
2) "LE WHEN IT IS APPLIED TO YOUR LIFE = HOPELESS AND NO BITCHES" nah nigga, the moment you apply any nuance you can see that I'm just a failed normie and should target 3/4 out of 10 girls and/or betabuxx, its not rocket science.
It's a hard pill to swallow because it makes you realise that all your little copes and your little theories are false, that people are predictable if you apply this to them and you are likely not a 10/10 chad so your life sucks
3) it benefits you because you wont end up in a divorce court or being cucked by a single mother.

(10-21-2023, 04:36 PM)Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome to The Internet

I swear everyone online gets 1 iq point subtracted every four months. It wasn't as bad as it is now when I was an adolescent.

(10-21-2023, 05:08 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]holy fucking shit faggot are you retarded? i spent a gorillion posts trying to explain to you that the blackpill is not WAAH I CANT BREED but instead an understanding of what I can and should breed with
and what, you want me to present 50 peer reviewed snopes fact checked studies to tell you that your purpose in life is to fuck and make a kid? go and take a biology class or something lmao

1) I don't want a study. I want you to justify how your own behaviour in this debate can be explained by sexual evolution or however you want to frame it where there is no purpose in life other than reproduction.
2) You're not listening to me, what you called the "blackpill" is not disputed by people here (at least the majority of its premises), nobody is saying that genetics isn't an important factor or even the primary factor in human relationships. But that's only because you selectively change the definition of the blackpill. For instance this is a quote from the original post I was responding to: "But the blackpill will come to collect, as it does. Your only choices are to either prepare or stick your head in the sand". So in this quote the blackpill is some despair inducing truth bomb which we just can't handle because we are coping. Now you're trying to tell me it's just about being honest about the influence of genetics/evolution in human coupling. Who cares? Everyone knows this already and nobody disputes it. What point are you even trying to make?
2a) My original point was this: that people who insist on the blackpill (sexual determinism) refuse to stop being emotionally invested in something that is apparently outside their control and so behave in the exact same manner whether or not they were blackpilled, except with the addition of frustration and feelings of unfairness. Therefore the proponents of the blackpill haven't accepted the information contained within it and their life is identical apart from being manifestly more unhappy for taking it. 

At this point I'm not sure there is even a serious disagreement between us so I don't understand why you respond so emotionally. 

(10-21-2023, 05:13 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) it ties into my cope (finding information, talking about information) that pleases me (because of more evolutionary reasons, btw). if i had fertile poon to fuck you bet I'd be doing it
2) "LE WHEN IT IS APPLIED TO YOUR LIFE = HOPELESS AND NO BITCHES" nah nigga, the moment you apply any nuance you can see that I'm just a failed normie and should target 3/4 out of 10 girls and/or betabuxx, its not rocket science.
It's a hard pill to swallow because it makes you realise that all your little copes and your little theories are false, that people are predictable if you apply this to them and you are likely not a 10/10 chad so your life sucks
3) it benefits you because you wont end up in a divorce court or being cucked by a single mother.

1) Again you fail to establish the evolutionary link between your behaviour and reproduction. I'm not going to invent your argument for you so please articulate yourself better next time.
2) Ok so the blackpill is just conventional folk wisdom that any middle aged turkish man will tell you. Not exactly the truth bomb that you made it out to be in the first place. (If you want a more serious response read the other number 2 in this post replying to the first guest it's pretty much the same argument I would make to you)
3) Another motte and bailey, so now blackpill = divorce court inequality? I thought it was to do with genetics and sexual selection, but now I guess it's just any instance of men suffering at the hands of women in the western world, doesn't sound like a coherent set of beliefs to me. 
3a) What conclusion are you even meant to come to from the divorce court stuff anyways? Is it “don't get married”? because, good luck finding a woman who will be willing to raise your children if you don't marry (especially if you're a failed normie as you say). Is it, “get married but with more caution”? I'm not saying it's not worth knowing it's just not information which you can create any planning out of and so not conducive to a political and philosophical worldview which seeks to improve the world (inb4 "I don't care about improving the world I just want pussy") 


Also I'm going to get you to define blackpill so you can't switch definitions anymore. Literally write a definition for what you consider the blackpill to be. And stop formatting your posts like a retard because I'm sick of having to remove my original post from these responses and you're wasting space in the thread.

(10-22-2023, 01:56 PM)Ricky23 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-21-2023, 04:36 PM)Striped_Pyjama_Boy_Nietzschean Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome to The Internet

I swear everyone online gets 1 iq point subtracted every four months. It wasn't as bad as it is now when I was an adolescent.

(10-21-2023, 05:08 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]holy fucking shit faggot are you retarded? i spent a gorillion posts trying to explain to you that the blackpill is not WAAH I CANT BREED but instead an understanding of what I can and should breed with
and what, you want me to present 50 peer reviewed snopes fact checked studies to tell you that your purpose in life is to fuck and make a kid? go and take a biology class or something lmao

1) I don't want a study. I want you to justify how your own behaviour in this debate can be explained by sexual evolution or however you want to frame it where there is no purpose in life other than reproduction.
2) You're not listening to me, what you called the "blackpill" is not disputed by people here (at least the majority of its premises), nobody is saying that genetics isn't an important factor or even the primary factor in human relationships. But that's only because you selectively change the definition of the blackpill. For instance this is a quote from the original post I was responding to: "But the blackpill will come to collect, as it does. Your only choices are to either prepare or stick your head in the sand". So in this quote the blackpill is some despair inducing truth bomb which we just can't handle because we are coping. Now you're trying to tell me it's just about being honest about the influence of genetics/evolution in human coupling. Who cares? Everyone knows this already and nobody disputes it. What point are you even trying to make?
2a) My original point was this: that people who insist on the blackpill (sexual determinism) refuse to stop being emotionally invested in something that is apparently outside their control and so behave in the exact same manner whether or not they were blackpilled, except with the addition of frustration and feelings of unfairness. Therefore the proponents of the blackpill haven't accepted the information contained within it and their life is identical apart from being manifestly more unhappy for taking it. 

At this point I'm not sure there is even a serious disagreement between us so I don't understand why you respond so emotionally. 

(10-21-2023, 05:13 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) it ties into my cope (finding information, talking about information) that pleases me (because of more evolutionary reasons, btw). if i had fertile poon to fuck you bet I'd be doing it
2) "LE WHEN IT IS APPLIED TO YOUR LIFE = HOPELESS AND NO BITCHES" nah nigga, the moment you apply any nuance you can see that I'm just a failed normie and should target 3/4 out of 10 girls and/or betabuxx, its not rocket science.
It's a hard pill to swallow because it makes you realise that all your little copes and your little theories are false, that people are predictable if you apply this to them and you are likely not a 10/10 chad so your life sucks
3) it benefits you because you wont end up in a divorce court or being cucked by a single mother.

1) Again you fail to establish the evolutionary link between your behaviour and reproduction. I'm not going to invent your argument for you so please articulate yourself better next time.
2) Ok so the blackpill is just conventional folk wisdom that any middle aged turkish man will tell you. Not exactly the truth bomb that you made it out to be in the first place. (If you want a more serious response read the other number 2 in this post replying to the first guest it's pretty much the same argument I would make to you)
3) Another motte and bailey, so now blackpill = divorce court inequality? I thought it was to do with genetics and sexual selection, but now I guess it's just any instance of men suffering at the hands of women in the western world, doesn't sound like a coherent set of beliefs to me. 
3a) What conclusion are you even meant to come to from the divorce court stuff anyways? Is it “don't get married”? because, good luck finding a woman who will be willing to raise your children if you don't marry (especially if you're a failed normie as you say). Is it, “get married but with more caution”? I'm not saying it's not worth knowing it's just not information which you can create any planning out of and so not conducive to a political and philosophical worldview which seeks to improve the world (inb4 "I don't care about improving the world I just want pussy") 


Also I'm going to get you to define blackpill so you can't switch definitions anymore. Literally write a definition for what you consider the blackpill to be. And stop formatting your posts like a retard because I'm sick of having to remove my original post from these responses and you're wasting space in the thread.

the blackpill is 3 things:
understanding the importance of looks (you are your looks)
understanding genetic determinism (everything in your life outside of edge cases is up to your genes)
and understanding evolutionary psychology (human nature)
it is devastating because it's a model that generates acczrate and truthful predictions, and it always comes to collect if you make a bad decision - for example, if you marry a single mother out of your league ylu are either getting divorce raped or you can prepare (save money elsewhere)

and yes, i do not care at all about inprooooving the world, i just want pussy
all of this rationalwiki nigger tier "discourse" complete with citing MUH MOZTE AND BAILEY and other faggot pseudo intellectual shit makes me want to beat your nigger ass

the divorce rape example is an extension of realising that betabuxx relationships are on a timer and they never work because you cant buy attraction, so divorce rape is subsequently common. in islamic states the equivalent of this is cheating, i guess.

i want to collect information because my body is desperately scrambling for any information that will help me breed and help my offspring.

<LE TURKISH BOOMER
you dont realise the true truthnuke. you are completely 100% replaceable and mundane to bitches. she will swap you for a 3 inch taller guy in a heartbeat. even the 4/10s i can fish up and betabuxx will treat me like a servant and replace me soon enough. bitches have loyalty to the local maximum, and if you give them anything better they climb. that is the real truthnuke. love is CHAD ONLY. us two, we aren't good enough. and since breeding in this day and age is usually a long term relationship thing (something an ugly man doesnt get) I likely wont have kids at all
of course even in married couples dual mating strategy means paternity fraud (test your kids nigger)

and i dont owe you or any of your faggot sperg friends me behaving rationally. a defeated organism raves amd rants and strikes out, occasionaly acking itself. its what i do. i dont owe you any nigger tier redpill scammer stoicism kinda shit fucking niggercoaler

i want to breed is all

You have removed the wool from my eyes. Bravo. I clearly see now that it is impossible to reproduce if you are not 6.5+ PSL. Thankfully I am slightly above that so I will not be committing suicide.

(10-22-2023, 03:30 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]the blackpill is 3 things:
understanding the importance of looks (you are your looks)
understanding genetic determinism (everything in your life outside of edge cases is up to your genes)
and understanding evolutionary psychology (human nature)
it is devastating because it's a model that generates acczrate and truthful predictions, and it always comes to collect if you make a bad decision - for example, if you marry a single mother out of your league ylu are either getting divorce raped or you can prepare (save money elsewhere)

and yes, i do not care at all about inprooooving the world, i just want pussy
all of this rationalwiki nigger tier "discourse" complete with citing MUH MOZTE AND BAILEY and other faggot pseudo intellectual shit makes me want to beat your nigger ass

the divorce rape example is an extension of realising that betabuxx relationships are on a timer and they never work because you cant buy attraction, so divorce rape is subsequently common. in islamic states the equivalent of this is cheating, i guess.

i want to collect information because my body is desperately scrambling for any information that will help me breed and help my offspring.

<LE TURKISH BOOMER
you dont realise the true truthnuke. you are completely 100% replaceable and mundane to bitches. she will swap you for a 3 inch taller guy in a heartbeat. even the 4/10s i can fish up and betabuxx will treat me like a servant and replace me soon enough. bitches have loyalty to the local maximum, and if you give them anything better they climb. that is the real truthnuke. love is CHAD ONLY. us two, we aren't good enough. and since breeding in this day and age is usually a long term relationship thing (something an ugly man doesnt get) I likely wont have kids at all
of course even in married couples dual mating strategy means paternity fraud (test your kids nigger)

and i dont owe you or any of your faggot sperg friends me behaving rationally. a defeated organism raves amd rants and strikes out, occasionaly acking itself. its what i do. i dont owe you any nigger tier redpill scammer stoicism kinda shit fucking niggercoaler

i want to breed is all

I only mention the motte and bailey because you are doing it. I wouldn't have to resort to "rationalwiki nigger tier discourse" if you would keep consistant.


"The model is devastating because it's accurate". The only thing that would be devastating would be if it were accurate and contrary to what I believe which it isn't. And more to the point it isn't contrary to the general analysis of this thread which you came into claiming that the blackpill was a truthnuke which would destroy all the little theories and speculations of the people here.


The divorce rape stuff is potentially useful information but there are no feasible prescriptions for it and knowing about it *can* just make you paranoid about women (which is a problem when you are obliged to pursue women anyway) and make your relationships more difficult. This is a perfect example of what I mean, the information is never presented neutrally, it's always being used to incite despair, as is observable in your post when you say "we aren't good enough". You have extrapolated a miserable conclusion from neutral evidence. So clearly there are two blackpills, one where you despair and vent your frustration on others fruitlessly and another which is a neutral recitation of studies and observations.


Collecting information is not what you're doing here and it wouldn't require emotional investment like is observable in your post.
Talking to me serves your quest for pussy in no way, literally in not a single way, no useful information has  passed between the two of us. I also don't believe that you seriously expect that there would be any useful information. This indicates that you aren't following your one admitted purpose in life which contradicts reproduction as the only possible purpose in life.


I'm not going to contest any of that.


That seems pretty disadvantageous evolutionarily. Also I never argued for stoicism. 

Yet another fascinating incel cope: no man is ever good enough. There is an endless supply of +1 sigma goodtrait men no matter how far out on the right side of the curve you are. They will never stop stealing your women because they have nothing better to do with their advanced intellect, harem and wealth.

DBDR discusses a therapy session. Perhaps I am not attentive enough with his channel but he mentioned an incident when he was twelve where a gay male sexually assaulted him, and then detailed how the therapist did not show any extreme reaction. The thought of so many Discarded Men being sent into therapy sessions haunts me. Anyone who's successfully avoided the therapy office is a lucky man.

Luckily, it seems that DBDR is resisting the option of taking meds for now. Let's hope that continues.

(10-26-2023, 07:20 PM)JohnTrent Wrote: [ -> ]
DBDR discusses a therapy session. Perhaps I am not attentive enough with his channel but he mentioned an incident when he was twelve where a gay male sexually assaulted him, and then detailed how the therapist did not show any extreme reaction. The thought of so many Discarded Men being sent into therapy sessions haunts me. Anyone who's successfully avoided the therapy office is a lucky man.

Luckily, it seems that DBDR is resisting the option of taking meds for now. Let's hope that continues.

“First they warehouse a sub-five male. And if that doesn’t break ‘em, then they get to the real nasty stuff—therapy. “Therapy,” you say, “that’s no tough stuff.” No son, that’s all just a cosmetic Lolly-game. It’s the meds they drug his ass up on like a hound on a fox. You ever seen a crackhead tweakin’ in an ally? Well, hoo boyo, he’s still got some hope left. You ain’t gonna see any light left in a sub-five males eyes after they’ve been dosin’ ‘em up till he see ol’ scratch in the cellar. There ain’t no tomorrow after that.”

Surprised this guy is still going, I remember watching him so long ago.

(10-26-2023, 07:20 PM)JohnTrent Wrote: [ -> ]DBDR discusses a therapy session. Perhaps I am not attentive enough with his channel but he mentioned an incident when he was twelve where a gay male sexually assaulted him, and then detailed how the therapist did not show any extreme reaction. The thought of so many Discarded Men being sent into therapy sessions haunts me. Anyone who's successfully avoided the therapy office is a lucky man.

Luckily, it seems that DBDR is resisting the option of taking meds for now. Let's hope that continues.

I don't know if he's since taken down the original, since his channel is a minefield of deleted videos and community posts. He agreed to go on a sleepover with a homosexual knowingly, likely out of the desire for any sort of friend, thus leading to him being flashed by said homosex. He agreed to go on a sleepover again after this occasion to a similar effect.

He used to post more on his community page and blogpost all day, post his face, etc. Looks like a half white half hispanic sort, leaning more on white. ~6ft tall, used to be a bit fat and still may be. To fill the void he would e-date shallow internet wahmen, visited a girls house once just to not have sex. Complained about not getting benefits for anxiety or something although he's quite able.

I think he's the result of always being told that things will be okay and a women will just manifest themself for him, yet the length of his work is wallowing in self pity. Any time you would message him he would only be interested in inceldom. He gives birth to an ugly island and has no real interests but this pity. It's a really hard mold for these people to break and I do hope one day he can realize what this way of thinking does to him, even if the value of men went down ever since women began working.

(10-26-2023, 07:20 PM)JohnTrent Wrote: [ -> ]
DBDR discusses a therapy session. Perhaps I am not attentive enough with his channel but he mentioned an incident when he was twelve where a gay male sexually assaulted him, and then detailed how the therapist did not show any extreme reaction. The thought of so many Discarded Men being sent into therapy sessions haunts me. Anyone who's successfully avoided the therapy office is a lucky man.

Luckily, it seems that DBDR is resisting the option of taking meds for now. Let's hope that continues.

I doubt that particular therapist or therapy in general would do much good for him, but it stood out to me how DBDR was accusing the therapist of being duplicitous while he himself was putting up a front by not going into more detail about his views. Limiting discussion to life events and vague depressive symptoms when you belong to a community that has an elaborate belief system to explain why they're struggling is kind of leaving a lot out.

Interesting guy, he clearly has a lot of self-awareness and ability to express himself, but also has weird blind spots. I feel like he might have found his way out of the maze by now if the other downtrodden folk weren't giving him so much attention in exchange for reinforcing their views.

(10-26-2023, 11:47 PM)Reverend Moon Immortal Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2023, 07:20 PM)JohnTrent Wrote: [ -> ]
DBDR discusses a therapy session. Perhaps I am not attentive enough with his channel but he mentioned an incident when he was twelve where a gay male sexually assaulted him, and then detailed how the therapist did not show any extreme reaction. The thought of so many Discarded Men being sent into therapy sessions haunts me. Anyone who's successfully avoided the therapy office is a lucky man.

Luckily, it seems that DBDR is resisting the option of taking meds for now. Let's hope that continues.

“First they warehouse a sub-five male. And if that doesn’t break ‘em, then they get to the real nasty stuff—therapy. “Therapy,” you say, “that’s no tough stuff.” No son, that’s all just a cosmetic Lolly-game. It’s the meds they drug his ass up on like a hound on a fox. You ever seen a crackhead tweakin’ in an ally? Well, hoo boyo, he’s still got some hope left. You ain’t gonna see any light left in a sub-five males eyes after they’ve been dosin’ ‘em up till he see ol’ scratch in the cellar. There ain’t no tomorrow after that.”

Guy I know who works at pharmacies says that he's always seeing hot girls getting the morning after pill and defeated sub-5s getting anti-depressants.

(10-29-2023, 04:24 PM)Mason Hall-McCullough Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2023, 07:20 PM)JohnTrent Wrote: [ -> ]
DBDR discusses a therapy session. Perhaps I am not attentive enough with his channel but he mentioned an incident when he was twelve where a gay male sexually assaulted him, and then detailed how the therapist did not show any extreme reaction. The thought of so many Discarded Men being sent into therapy sessions haunts me. Anyone who's successfully avoided the therapy office is a lucky man.

Luckily, it seems that DBDR is resisting the option of taking meds for now. Let's hope that continues.

I doubt that particular therapist or therapy in general would do much good for him, but it stood out to me how DBDR was accusing the therapist of being duplicitous while he himself was putting up a front by not going into more detail about his views. Limiting discussion to life events and vague depressive symptoms when you belong to a community that has an elaborate belief system to explain why they're struggling is kind of leaving a lot out.

Interesting guy, he clearly has a lot of self-awareness and ability to express himself, but also has weird blind spots. I feel like he might have found his way out of the maze by now if the other downtrodden folk weren't giving him so much attention in exchange for reinforcing their views.

Sharing his elaborate incel beliefs and talking about being embedded in that subculture wouldn't really do anything for how the therapeutic process is supposed to work. He wants practical help. I don't see much real dishonesty in not talking about that. He's not sabotaging the process or disrespecting the therapist's time by not going into that. He's not being duplicitous. I think he was genuinely trying to focus and holding out on the hope that he could get some real advice from this guy to unfuck his life, even while knowing that was extraordinarily unlikely.

Let's say he does bring up inceldom or whatever, then what? With this allegedly duplicitous behaviour on his part excised where does Therapist Affleck go from there?

(10-31-2023, 05:09 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]Sharing his elaborate incel beliefs and talking about being embedded in that subculture wouldn't really do anything for how the therapeutic process is supposed to work. He wants practical help. I don't see much real dishonesty in not talking about that. He's not sabotaging the process or disrespecting the therapist's time by not going into that. He's not being duplicitous. I think he was genuinely trying to focus and holding out on the hope that he could get some real advice from this guy to unfuck his life, even while knowing that was extraordinarily unlikely.

Let's say he does bring up inceldom or whatever, then what? With this allegedly duplicitous behaviour on his part excised where does Therapist Affleck go from there?

I understand that no professional therapist is really going to be able to help with this issue. Maybe DBDR wasn't trying to hide anything and he's so used to concealing the incel ideology from normies that mentioning it face to face didn't even occur to him. But I think any solution that may or may not exist to allow DBDR to be happy is going to require actively reckoning with and moving beyond this community. If therapists actually helped people like DBDR (which is what he was idly placing a 1% gamble on when he showed up in the first place), it would be important to mention it, so I figure he might as well.

(10-31-2023, 05:09 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]Guy I know who works at pharmacies says that he's always seeing hot girls getting the morning after pill and defeated sub-5s getting anti-depressants.

Horrifying—seeing that would take a toll on my psyche.

Important update people. Getting deeper into the therapy hole. Surrounded by women stuck on tutorial island who can't stop self-owning. dbdr just wants his warehouse job back but they rejected him. The therapists want to medicate him.

(11-09-2023, 03:14 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]

Important update people. Getting deeper into the therapy hole. Surrounded by women stuck on tutorial island who can't stop self-owning. dbdr just wants his warehouse job back but they rejected him. The therapists want to medicate him.

Watched this earlier today. Very depressing description of the group therapy session, like a bizarre 21st C. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. He still is resisting the medication option, which is great, but they will probably continue to insist for the entire time he is around those group sessions. The way in which everyone fell silent when he described himself to them is about what I expected, it's almost comical how predictable that'd be.

From my understanding, most of these group therapy sessions across the board serve no purpose. Everyone involved is always an erratic junkie who will land himself in jail, a tutorial island loiterer, or a mentally broken person who is simply pushed between the sides (the anxiety character mentioned in the video). Anyone who cannot relate to these circumstances is bound to be an outlier. Once these people are about thirty or so, they just keep coming back to the rehab centers and the group therapy — it's their purgatory, and they usually don't have much introspection about what they've been doing. This is mostly because of how they're prone to addiction, but the ones who aren't addicts repeat the behavior in an eerily similar way. It's a way of soothing the totally unmanageable. Frankly, the leader of the sessions likely has no clue to do with someone like DBDR. If he ever met a similar person, he would only be able to count it on one hand. To say it's beyond his expertise is an understatement.

Alright, recent developments in the life of DBDR. He is still in the Ramona Flowers Academy and describing how he is receiving dopamine highs from being around so many girls at once. One of the girls offered to hang out with him. She wouldn't give him her number, however.










It's troubling to think that orbiting may be on the cards here.

Imagine an alternative universe where instead of "incels" we had "innums" who believe their lives are over because they're genetically unable to understand higher math. I saw an image of a anonymous blackpill .pdf manifesto from this world in my mind's eye.

Haven't been posting every video here, but you guys know the situation roughly I presume. The Ramona Flowers Academy provided lots of fun insight into how destroyed young women are (but victims of what they want rather than not getting what they want like dbdr and his kind), now he's out, his mother saw it doing nothing for him and pulled him from the program (dbdr would feel good during the week then emotionally crash and drink heavily on weekends to cope with loneliness), now we're here.




dbdr first person expedition arc might be starting soon. I really strongly recommend watching all of the Ramona Flowers Academy Arc episodes for the perspective on young women. dbdr isn't too judgmental personally but things sound really bad over there. Related to what was recently written on J'Accuse about employability. These girls are basically worthless to society now. It would cost more to make them work than they could ever contribute in many cases it seems.

The thought I had in response to the J'accuse piece (maybe it belongs in another thread but I want to talk about it here) is that we should really explore unemployability by kind to determine where and how things are going wrong. On J'accuse these people are referred to as stupid. Sub 100 IQs and so on. I have to wonder. Perhaps my perspective is very skewed by who I am and my preferred company but I have to wonder how many of these burned out and worthless types were better human stock who took the 21st century particularly hard. And how many are just redundant bottom tier labour stock who are now encouraged to go to university for no reason? How many of these girls dbdr is witnessing nuke their brains with daily weed and normalfag internet are innately subnormal types. If anybody else has watched these latest videos or has thoughts on this in general I'd be very interested in hearing. Considered commenting about this on J'accuse but didn't want to bother them or seem critical because I really respect what they do.

In short the question raised by the Ramona Flowers arc and the J'accuse piece together is "how much of our bad human stock is essentially bad?" I believe a lot of this has to just be a consequence of giving a weird spread of extreme privileges, deranged and incoherent justifying ideology, and no accountability to women. Do they all have IQs below 90? I think a decently intelligent person can be reduced to this with the right (or wrong) prompting.