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Absorbed the first linked video. He still uses "bruh" as punctuation and has a laugh which brings to mind a mean spirited retard in a cartoon. There's no real insight or ascension here, or even warmth or spark of character. This is just a human writeoff killing time and spewing negativity. Most of the worst misreadings of dbdr in this thread up to this point are probably true of this guy. What is the positive value of this video or anything this guy has ever said? I really don't see any. I don't even want to hatelisten to more of this.

Yeah, it was also a dissapointment to see such a bast catalogue of just mean spirit commentary, although this may be one of the most needed videos in that sphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWV4CUpnZDo

So, to this day, VantaBlack and Rehab Room are the most decent and even motivational content creators in that sphere, which is kinda depresing.

(06-16-2023, 10:29 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, it was also a dissapointment to see such a bast catalogue of just mean spirit commentary, although this may be one of the most needed videos in that sphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWV4CUpnZDo

So, to this day, VantaBlack and Rehab Room are the most decent and even motivational content creators in that sphere, which is kinda depresing.

Another awful video full of awful and stupid thoughts.

Yes some hypothetical guy giving up on life because it's so absurdly and unfairly easy for others is a shame. If he were just focusing in on that specific point again this wouldn't be insultingly bad. But he doesn't. He wavers back and forth between several different issues and several different "they"s addressing none satisfactorily. Along the way he makes several points which struck me as obscene or offensive. He says he's talking about the extreme examples and specific guys to walk this back but he's obviously not. He's drifting and believes more than he's willing or able to commit to and pin down. Well really he can't pin any thought down, he's an awful thinker and speaker. I won't call him malicious or a liar. 

Which part of this is needed? What specific advice is offered to who? A generous listener might fill some sense into the enormous gaps in this moron's stream of consciousness but really try for me. Why was this video not just needed, but maybe "the most needed"?

Was it the part where he said guys younger than him are "Staceycels"? Immediately followed by an impersonation: "I want to get an equal partner" "which is no different from what the feminists are asking for". (all his words in this sequence). This is so offensively dumb, does it need comment? Does any of this? Why are you bringing up this retard? He is so stupid that he just makes me disappointed in people for the day. In one thought he can contradict himself so completely, miss the point so fully multiple times, is it even contradiction if someone just can't remember what they're accusing you of because their mind can't hold that many thoughts? Should any of this be called thought? Why is he here? Why are you here?

I like Rehab Room (Incel TV) because I find his funny ethnic accent paired with his defeated tone darkly amusing. Otherwise it's incel forum threads recapped in typical youtube style and the odd personal moment where he lets his own unfiltered pain and frustration out. Those are the parts I find really interesting of course. I'd like to see him put the charts away and talk more. Another Saint Hamudi. But of course that might hurt too much. Hamudi didn't launder his feelings and frustrations through abstract analysis. He just joked and despaired with you.




I share this for an alternative angle on why I can't stand this guy you're linking. dbdr talks. Hamudi talked. They could be unreasonable, extremely biased, unfair, maybe even cruel to listeners, but it's all so personal that I can't read any of it as failure. It's just who they are transmitted straight to me. This guy you're linking frames himself as an explainer and a voice of wisdom. Someone who knows better. He's not interesting, funny, personal, if I don't think that the things he's saying to me are intelligent or correct what reason do I have to listen?

dbdr's latest arc is pretty amazing. Another Upton Sinclair moment for sure. Excellent casual encapsulation of how rough it is to be a young man during a decline.




Some extremely funny lines in this one, and some of the saddest stuff he's ever said. His father sounds like a really fascinating character. Basically an autist who was able to use the relative perks his generation had access to to get job skills and employment, a wife, a son, and now basically lives as an authentic MGTOW. Not a particularly admirable case, he does not make much use of his relative individual freedom, but the world at least isn't on his ass as hard as it is for his son.

dbdr doesn't really explore this angle, but says some things which are along these lines. Just doesn't really quite put it together. He talks about things like unemployed college graduates. But also says "it's the world telling you your genes are garbage". He'll say that immediately after saying he's exactly like his father. Relative decline in standards and opportunities for mediocre men is a subject I'd be interested in seeing him contemplate. Maybe I owe him another comment. I'll let him know the gangstalking is still not over.

I recommend the videos of this latest leaving his mother to move in with his dad arc very strongly. His father is a fascinating American specimen in his own right.

I've noticed a curious pattern on dbdr's cosmology, he's very quick on commenting other people's flaws (physical oddities, speech patterns, odd gestures, etc) or their practices and how they seem dumb/cringe/cope/over-worthy to him laughing constantly, yet he talks how is also severely over to him but in a harsh yet somewhat complacent way (he seems to talk more slowly or with more silences when touching those themes), he seems to detect how the world around him is dumb and dull, but can't find a way to at least function decently in that dumb world he sometimes see is beyond him.
I still don't forget how he mistreated the few friendships he had by venting about their issues online, while also telling how he had no real respect for them.

Truly the boundary between the self and the outside world is fascinating in his case.

Is he the case of a truly frustrated midwit/failed normie? Sometimes he reminds me of the never ending suffering of Squidward and similar characters where their biggest enemy are the last lingers of their ego which is already in the floor with no real means of standing out.

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Another trope he just reminded me of is the Gen-X Daria and similar 90s nihilists, always detecting the bullshit around everyone and seeing through societty's flaws, yet limiting most of the time to snarky remarks and one liners, the thing is that Daria could manage or seem that she would never ever be really threatened by the normies by being of above average intelligence and with enough resources and connections of achieving their visions to some extent, effectively acting as the know-better of her family many times. It's fascinating seeing a perpetuation of that kind of mindset to a Zoomer.

PS: It's been 3 years since Highschool and some frustrated college experience, Is he is approaching some kind of peacemaking with his past? Or there's still so many years of bitterness

(06-28-2023, 01:29 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]I've noticed a curious pattern on dbdr's cosmology, he's very quick on commenting other people's flaws (physical oddities, speech patterns, odd gestures, etc) or their practices and how they seem dumb/cringe/cope/over-worthy to him laughing constantly, yet he talks how is also severely over to him but in a harsh yet somewhat complacent way (he seems to talk more slowly or with more silences when touching those themes), he seems to detect how the world around him is dumb and dull, but can't find a way to at least function decently in that dumb world he sometimes see is beyond him.
I still don't forget how he mistreated the few friendships he had by venting about their issues online, while also telling how he had no real respect for them.

Truly the boundary between the self and the outside world is fascinating in his case.

Is he the case of a truly frustrated midwit/failed normie? Sometimes he reminds me of the never ending suffering of Squidward and similar characters where their biggest enemy are the last lingers of their ego which is already in the floor with no real means of standing out.

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Another trope he just reminded me of is the Gen-X Daria and similar 90s nihilists, always detecting the bullshit around everyone and seeing through societty's flaws, yet limiting most of the time to snarky remarks and one liners, the thing is that Daria could manage or seem that she would never ever be really threatened by the normies by being of above average intelligence and with enough resources and connections of achieving their visions to some extent, effectively acting as the know-better of her family many times. It's fascinating seeing a perpetuation of that kind of mindset to a Zoomer.

PS: It's been 3 years since Highschool and some frustrated college experience, Is he is approaching some kind of peacemaking with his past? Or there's still so many years of bitterness

I think "midwit" is a term that is (or at least used to be) thrown around to abuse genuinely intelligent people who were denied cultivation as a particularly cruel own ("you just weren't quite smart enough") but in dbdr's case it might be appropriate, where he really is more ensouled and intelligent than the people around him, but also not really sharp enough to be a bearer or culture or a real professional. But then he also claims he's just like his father and he's some kind of middle of the road STEMcel. Though of course I don't consider those people great stuff. Actually a great dumping ground for midwits in a just society.

More on that thought I think in a true society dbdr would be above baseline in his place/status, even if he's not a real frustrated elite. Something like warehouse manager, leader of a factory floor, something like that. Sort of equivalent to where his father ended up.

And thank you for bringing up the 90s so we can all be thankful today that we don't live in such an overwhelmingly pointless, retarded age. What could one do in the 90s? Sure we can't do much today, but I can at least find a lot of attention and camaraderie online by talking with no inhibition about how much I hate everybody and wish Hitler won WW2. I can read nearly every book ever written. The world is struggling for life today, in the 90s it was practically dead.

And that's kind of dbdr's issue. He's so latchkeyed that he almost lives in the 90s still. I ask him about it, it's weird that he doesn't have online friends. Or really a truly online life at all. He is a weirdly offline person for our time. He just lurks the internet and uploads shitty gaming vlogs like it's the 2000s. He denies himself the great consolations of our time. Another point which makes me think he's only so much smarter than the norm, he really just doesn't appreciate the good things we have. Doesn't really have a curious drive towards better things. And of course just being into these things doesn't make you smart. There are about 5 people worth listening to on "rw twitter".

“ There are about 5 people worth listening to on "rw twitter".”

Which ones

(06-30-2023, 05:20 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]“ There are about 5 people worth listening to on "rw twitter".”

Which ones

Almost all of the people I'm interested in hearing from I just talk to directly on discord (the real heavensite). Several people I know from twitter no longer bother with it as well. The site has now barred itself to lurking so I won't even check in on the remaining interesting personalities I'm not talking to on discord. Main ones being Mikka and Contrary Pancake, both of whom I have spoken to directly, but they seem to prefer twitter. Oh well. They're still around. I'll hear what's going on now and then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wfdXssoSWo

I found this guy yesterday, despite the dry presentation, he seems like a hopeful and somewhat wise person who bothered to touch these topics.

(07-01-2023, 10:11 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wfdXssoSWo

I found this guy yesterday, despite the dry presentation, he seems like a hopeful and somewhat wise person who bothered to touch these topics.

Excellent work Patriot. Will initiate the gang-stalking tomorrow if I feel up to it.

I like this guy because he says what I think is the most important point for every discarded man to hear. "It's not your fault."

Really interesting guy. Older. Jaded. Hostile to the world as it is now but can also make broader and more generally pessimistic statements that aren't evopsych absurdity.




This one I think is particularly good. He's talking about bugmen but in entirely original terms. He hates the right people.

He says here what I've been thinking for a while, and have said to dbdr at least once. That it's largely if not entirely a question of social integration. Being with it. I think this video is interesting because he talks about a kind of mental process because he understands you can't just tell someone on the "incel spectrum" to become another person.




A story like this is sort of like the good ending option for a guy like dbdr. A good possible life that should be possible for most men with at least a tiny bit going on inside for themselves. Or at least maybe it was. This story wasn't current year. First world economies are so crippled right now this modest success story might actually be out of reach of most men. Really I think if dbdr had this guy's workplace he'd be set. But instead all of his goodwill got burned on some piece of shit ethnic gangster cooly slave operation. This was meant to be a more optimistic post but maybe it really is that bad.

But the essential point I take from these, even if he doesn't present them this way himself, is that "incel" is really a kind of life status in which you are not socially integrated in any real way that gets you anywhere. And his focus is on correcting that. Which I do think is what a lot of men could benefit from hearing. But the trouble of course is that the carrot moves further away from us every generation and the stick gets heavier. There ARE hostile social forces aligned against us. He has videos on race and such, maybe he goes into this there. I'll see.

(07-02-2023, 05:28 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]

A story like this is sort of like the good ending option for a guy like dbdr. A good possible life that should be possible for most men with at least a tiny bit going on inside for themselves. Or at least maybe it was.

The issue for Dbdr is that he comes across as being stuck in a weird state of flux. He's introspective but in a somewhat immature way where he almost always only ever settles on the more negative side of his reflections, and I think that the positive potentialities that he sometimes acknowledges either confuse him or easily get thrown away as "cope." A lot of this may just be him being caught up in some of the online fashion of the so-called incel movement. Compare Dbdr with the guy in the Jack_Tisson video, who he describes as just an absolute bonehead and not even aware that he's an incel. Getting promoted at work was just a matter of him showing up and doing his job long enough because for him, that's just what you do. Getting a girlfriend was just a matter of swiping on tinder until something worked out because for him, it's all a numbers game. It never appeared as though this guy spent any time reflecting on his shit lot in life, and maybe he wasn't even smart enough to give it much thought or care much at all. I don't think this can happen for Dbdr so long as he continues caring so much about every little thing. 

Maybe it's because Jack himself is a bit older and life-weathered, but he's obviously more intellectually and spiritually mature than Dbdr. He mentioned how he was an amateur boxer and I'd guess that his time spent in sport really shaped his outlook, whether he directly realises it or not. The videos that I watched never seemed like directionless rants about how much life sucks but more like a guy genuinely trying to think things through and arrive at an answer that might not whitepill him but at the very least can give him some solace in reality or truth. 

 

On a bell curve we'd have Dbdr in the middle and the Scottish lad and Jack on the respective ends.

(07-05-2023, 08:00 PM)august Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-02-2023, 05:28 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]

A story like this is sort of like the good ending option for a guy like dbdr. A good possible life that should be possible for most men with at least a tiny bit going on inside for themselves. Or at least maybe it was.

The issue for Dbdr is that he comes across as being stuck in a weird state of flux. He's introspective but in a somewhat immature way where he almost always only ever settles on the more negative side of his reflections, and I think that the positive potentialities that he sometimes acknowledges either confuse him or easily get thrown away as "cope." A lot of this may just be him being caught up in some of the online fashion of the so-called incel movement. Compare Dbdr with the guy in the Jack_Tisson video, who he describes as just an absolute bonehead and not even aware that he's an incel. Getting promoted at work was just a matter of him showing up and doing his job long enough because for him, that's just what you do. Getting a girlfriend was just a matter of swiping on tinder until something worked out because for him, it's all a numbers game. It never appeared as though this guy spent any time reflecting on his shit lot in life, and maybe he wasn't even smart enough to give it much thought or care much at all. I don't think this can happen for Dbdr so long as he continues caring so much about every little thing. 

Maybe it's because Jack himself is a bit older and life-weathered, but he's obviously more intellectually and spiritually mature than Dbdr. He mentioned how he was an amateur boxer and I'd guess that his time spent in sport really shaped his outlook, whether he directly realises it or not. The videos that I watched never seemed like directionless rants about how much life sucks but more like a guy genuinely trying to think things through and arrive at an answer that might not whitepill him but at the very least can give him some solace in reality or truth. 

 

On a bell curve we'd have Dbdr in the middle and the Scottish lad and Jack on the respective ends.

Where on the bell curve could you place RehabRoom/ITV?

(07-08-2023, 11:09 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]Where on the bell curve could you place RehabRoom/ITV?

I've no idea. I said that about the bell curve half jokingly. Other than Dbdr and Jack for the purposes of this thread, I don't watch incel sphere videos. Nor do I like most of the "content" they make. 

(07-05-2023, 08:00 PM)august Wrote: [ -> ]The issue for Dbdr is that he comes across as being stuck in a weird state of flux. He's introspective but in a somewhat immature way where he almost always only ever settles on the more negative side of his reflections, and I think that the positive potentialities that he sometimes acknowledges either confuse him or easily get thrown away as "cope." A lot of this may just be him being caught up in some of the online fashion of the so-called incel movement.

Before "being online" existed, there's countless examples of "IRL" incels (more likely, they were volcels or genuine SYM) that changed the world (the West) - I've no doubt that there are a few younger guys both here and on twitter who would have accomplished similar things if born in different times. It seems more likely to me that the overwhelming majority of the audiences for the more popular incel sphere videos, and most of the self-proclaimed incels themselves, are mexicans, indians, filipinos, etc. Everything gets appropriated. It's an online fashion trend and identity that just so happens to coincide with them actually being relative losers in real life. The act of making your entire identity about being a loser is extremely brown, and it's also extremely brown to overcompensate by adopting MedGold niggerbrain.

No real southern experience stories today. But some good developing awareness. It's good that he's mocking "dopamine detox" and that general field of thought. I feel like I may have written here or somewhere else recently about this. This kind of overdeveloped peasant's morality that leads to this. He rightly compares it to how people who still go to church think. The peasant (or hobbit?) view of the world is "it is what it is". This makes them good at coping with toil and tedium and whatever common misfortunes come their way. But things break down when people of this spirit are integrated into more complex lives, ideas, and problems. "Just shut up and work harder" is a good attitude for a peasant attached to some mediocre land. But it obviously does nothing for a disinherited white man of the 21st century.

As positive incentives are stripped away and increasingly inorganic and anti-human obstacles are placed before prosperity the new morality that emerges is "pleasure = bad". "EAT YOUR VEGETABLES SHITBABY" morality ensues. It's good because it feels bad. And vice versa of course. The problems this creates are endless. Intellectual development is about reading books not because we learn from them, but because modern academic tomes are hideous and unpleasant to read. So they must be good for us, like our glyphosate soaked, sterilised ZOG vegetables. Being physically "Healthy"? That's a question of doing your homework. Physical chores and food which tastes bad eaten to an engineer's schedule. Mental life? Chores. Material success. Chores. The more you're fighting what feels right to you as a human being the more good you are.

I remember there used to be memes of this, people are more cynical now, I don't know if it's still the case. I remember old "inspiration" macros about how if you're meeting resistance that means you're going the right way. It's an instinct to look for justice in the way things are. I know it's a thing. I grew up in it.

dbdr seems to have been building confidence against this peasant truth regime for a long time now and I'm glad it's solidifying. It seems to be getting easier for younger and younger guys to reject this stuff and I believe that's a good thing. dbdr is not an elf trapped in hobbitville, he's a hobbit himself. But that doesn't mean his lot in life is meant to be eating dirt. As I've said many times in this thread, what he wants from life is basically the old hobbit deal, and nobody should be telling him that's too much or that he's not willing to put enough in to get that. Just because it is possible for some people to brutalise themselves to achieve something near what their grandparents got by default that doesn't make it okay.

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Man, DBDR Is gonna turn into a neurotic mix of his parents sooner than i would hope, i can really understand why he can be too smug and self deprecating for his own good at times.

"High on Life", fuck...