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I am absolutely fascinated with these descriptions of the american south. It sounds like all of these people are just waiting to die. Everything seems so pointless and hopeless. So squalid and awful. It's not over for dbdr. It's over for everyone.


Still following my other case study. Interesting video here. I'm not interested in the practical advice but it sheds interesting light on the man. I've attempted to contact him in the comments of this one. We'll see how I go.

This guy is older and more cerebral. Very active about making changes in his life and wants to open others up to the possibility they could be too. Very interesting. I want to know more of what he thinks about the world beyond women and am kind of probing in that direction. He says he used to write somewhat successfully. Would really like to know what was going on there.

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He mentions verbal IQ, which does not exist. There is IQ, which corresponds directly to the functionality of the multiple demand network of the brain. Variations in derived capabilities are presumably all from the accessibility of multiple demand network to other parts of the brain. This should make his points even stronger: you can learn social skills, you can make literal physical neural links between your intellectual capacities and social situations.

His main other explanations are confidence accumulation, and efficient targeting based on evolutionary hedging instincts. I endorse the hedging theory, I've seen a guy who doesn't have a ton of luck with women except that he has been approached, even outright hit on by women in public like four times, but all redheads- some jailbait.

Maybe bootstrapping by way of preselection bias is a feasible strategy. For example, rotating an increasingly valuable set of feasible companions, cycling lowest-value members out... could be something he did without realizing it. Kind of like how frequent job-hopping is the meta in salarymaxxing. "Ow, look at his last two dates... each superior to me in specific ways..." If women are as inconsistent at assessing the sex appeal of their own gender as man are at theirs, there should be a lot of untapped energy here.

My own path to mental well-being despite celibacy has been along the lines of "If I had this 100% solved, what would I want to do then?" and trying to pre-emptively fill that gap. I want to have that problem solved ahead of time. I don't want to conflate that sort of post-sexual emptiness with the I'm-not-having-sex-and-cuddles emptiness. Plus, that stuff is attractive to women and if it makes life worth living then you aren't posturing.
(08-01-2023, 09:54 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]on recent post

He mentions verbal IQ, which does not exist. There is IQ, which corresponds directly to the functionality of the multiple demand network of the brain. Variations in derived capabilities are presumably all from the accessibility of multiple demand network to other parts of the brain. This should make his points even stronger: you can learn social skills, you can make literal physical neural links between your intellectual capacities and social situations.

His main other explanations are confidence accumulation, and efficient targeting based on evolutionary hedging instincts. I endorse the hedging theory, I've seen a guy who doesn't have a ton of luck with women except that he has been approached, even outright hit on by women in public like four times, but all redheads- some jailbait.

Maybe bootstrapping by way of preselection bias is a feasible strategy. For example, rotating an increasingly valuable set of feasible companions, cycling lowest-value members out... could be something he did without realizing it. Kind of like how frequent job-hopping is the meta in salarymaxxing. "Ow, look at his last two dates... each superior to me in specific ways..." If women are as inconsistent at assessing the sex appeal of their own gender as man are at theirs, there should be a lot of untapped energy here.

My own path to mental well-being despite celibacy has been along the lines of "If I had this 100% solved, what would I want to do then?" and trying to pre-emptively fill that gap. I want to have that problem solved ahead of time. I don't want to conflate that sort of post-sexual emptiness with the I'm-not-having-sex-and-cuddles emptiness. Plus, that stuff is attractive to women and if it makes life worth living then you aren't posturing.

I don't really believe in verbal IQ either. I think pretty much all intelligent people can take this course of compensating for a lack of a natural feel for people by developing a more elaborate conscious understanding. I can't really think of someone who strikes me as otherwise stupid but who possesses a strong "Verbal IQ". I don't really see it as something which meaningfully exists distinct from general intelligence.

Beyond that I have no thoughts on the "practical" side of this but like the "If I had this 100% solved, what would I want to do then?" angle. This is sort of the position I take with everything. If I didn't have to worry about anything, what would I do next?

Also I think Tisson deleted my comment. Hurts a bit, but fine. I did open by saying I wasn't watching him for practical advice and instead was interested in him as a person. Maybe he found that weird or inappropriate. I had serious questions about his general progress in life and outlook but I guess that's not happening now. We'll see if he says anything more interesting of his own volition going forward.
Did the incel movement get somehow co-opted by normies after transitioning to those forums? I thankfully stepped away a long time ago, but it surprises me that an audience exists for this guy at all: he's a textbook failed normie describing himself as "a bit of an in-cel" after a few years of social isolation. He seems fairly clever and thoughtful, but this seems more like general life advice than something actual incels could use.
Oh yeah, probably worth adding here for those of you who are following the character. Tisson is apparently on meds for schizophrenia.

edit: or did he? I swear I read that today...

Edit 2: Yes, I did. This man is on Olanzapine.
(07-16-2023, 12:17 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ][Image: image.png]

Exactly my point. This is why Jack Tisson is scores more intriguing to me than dbdr. 

(08-02-2023, 06:34 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah, probably worth adding here for those of you who are following the character. Tisson is apparently on meds for schizophrenia.

edit: or did he? I swear I read that today...

Edit 2: Yes, I did. This man is on Olanzapine.

Where did you read or hear of this?
(08-02-2023, 08:36 PM)august Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2023, 12:17 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ][Image: image.png]

Exactly my point. This is why Jack Tisson is scores more intriguing to me than dbdr. 

(08-02-2023, 06:34 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah, probably worth adding here for those of you who are following the character. Tisson is apparently on meds for schizophrenia.

edit: or did he? I swear I read that today...

Edit 2: Yes, I did. This man is on Olanzapine.

Where did you read or hear of this?

My point with the "content creator" comment share wasn't anything against dbdr. I'm just drawing attention to how awful people are. The mindset that seeks "content" disgusts me. Everything is tv to these apes.

And Tisson talks about his drugs in the comments on his last video. Change the comment filter to "newest" if youtube's incoherent needfulmaxxed algorithm won't show it to you.


Interesting to see him venture into the race question. Basically all just to acknowledge the existence of ethnic in-group bias as a naturally occurring part of human nature. Unfortunately I think he falls just short of a correct final realisation in that he misses how Whites have really been the only group, possibly ever, to willingly and actively advocate against their own ethnic self-interests. Or maybe he does understand this but just doesn't mention it - he does say that it's okay to be White... though a rather brutal, bit sad actually, 20 second digression at ~31:00 regarding that.
(08-04-2023, 05:57 PM)august Wrote: [ -> ]

Interesting to see him venture into the race question. Basically all just to acknowledge the existence of ethnic in-group bias as a naturally occurring part of human nature. Unfortunately I think he falls just short of a correct final realisation in that he misses how Whites have really been the only group, possibly ever, to willingly and actively advocate against their own ethnic self-interests. Or maybe he does understand this but just doesn't mention it - he does say that it's okay to be White... though a rather brutal, bit sad actually, 20 second digression at ~31:00 regarding that.

There are places I could poke in his older videos, where he did not appreciate the attention, so I won't bother leaving comments here. I obviously won't stand a chance.

If the old thinking was spotty in places, dodging a few fundamental questions, here it feels more like he's practicing deliberate thought-termination and mind-killing. Yes, everyone has interests. But all interests being equal is something one can only push by pretending to be retarded or embracing pure moral relativism (some beliefs create civilisation, some lead to human extinction, that's just how the cookie crumbles shitbaby).

He invokes universal laws, dominance, flow of history "Effective Action", who "wins", while also invoking "human rights" and the "economic sovereignty" of modern career women. The realism of this analysis is completely hollow. He's trying not to think. I'd challenge him on this, but again, he's trying not to think. Strange that he'd feel compelled to make this video at all. But I still have to say he's doing far better than "basedescortcel", whose own video on race politics funnily enough got deleted for hate speech or something even though he was trying to own Nazis and seems to be some kind of spic goblin.

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He knows exactly what needs doing. But it would hurt the feelings of some retarded and trashy people (and yeah, some decent ones too), fuck some lives up, etc. Nothing is inevitable. The world is being made worse by certain kinds of interests being empowered. Certain other interests being empowered would make the world better. Not all interests are equal. He knows this. He tries to pull it back together at the end but it doesn't run together with everything else he said. The real scum are the ones who say it's not okay to be any particular thing? Like the people running every first world government who hate whites? Why can't we deal with them? It's not their selfish genes. It's moral poisoning.

Evopsych remains useless and frustrating in all cases.
That was a long video to explain such an oversimplified perspective. I wonder if being a miscegenator also leads one to engage in selfishly motivated reasoning when it comes to racial advocacy.
Just in case you guys didn't know, the community tab on his second channel is basically his blog.

https://www.youtube.com/@DbdrExtended/community

Constant despair at this point, paired with a good deal of realism at least. Tried commenting on a recent one but it seems like you have to get in early with these.
(08-10-2023, 06:52 PM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]Just in case you guys didn't know, the community tab on his second channel is basically his blog.

https://www.youtube.com/@DbdrExtended/community

Constant despair at this point, paired with a good deal of realism at least. Tried commenting on a recent one but it seems like you have to get in early with these.

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Nice.

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Man, he truly likes to bitch, he Is gonna become as neurotic as his parents.
Are there any redpills to be had on dbdr's affinity for South Park? I know there's been a zoomer (of the rape victim variety) revitalization of it recently but I doubt he has anything to do with that. I think it's just tasteless gen x slop that he gravitates towards which shows that he's really just an "average" guy swept into the tide of the gynocratic warehouse.
(08-11-2023, 06:50 PM)Miratur Wrote: [ -> ]Are there any redpills to be had on dbdr's affinity for South Park? I know there's been a zoomer (of the rape victim variety) revitalization of it recently but I doubt he has anything to do with that. I think it's just tasteless gen x slop that he gravitates towards which shows that he's really just an "average" guy swept into the tide of the gynocratic warehouse.
South Park is a release valve.
(08-11-2023, 06:50 PM)Miratur Wrote: [ -> ]Are there any redpills to be had on dbdr's affinity for South Park? I know there's been a zoomer (of the rape victim variety) revitalization of it recently but I doubt he has anything to do with that. I think it's just tasteless gen x slop that he gravitates towards which shows that he's really just an "average" guy swept into the tide of the gynocratic warehouse.

I think that it's sort of like a slightly less retarded family guy (how Americans have come to treat Family Guy deserves its own discussion somewhere). South Park is always there, it's like cultural furniture at this point. And its consistent 2000s libertarianism (which it can afford thanks to cultural tenure) makes it a decent comfort and refuge for those who don't feel great about life but also aren't going to seriously work at that like a problem. South Park is there and South park understands. It also won't say anything that'll make you a pariah if you repeat it.


Our favourite content creator is back. No jobs. Everyone is fat. The South sounds like discarded goylem hell.

The focus on how being fat is something basically given to you by your parents I like. But he needs to go further. There is a crisis of virtually non-existent human cultivation. People not being physically built up right is obviously a problem. But many people aren't receiving any kind of serious cultivation at all. Most naturally human scaled and suited modes of existence have been obliterated and replaced with this pointless consuming hell. This is the human salmon farm. An alien might think someone is getting paid for the cultivation of these people by the pound.
did you show him this thread?
(08-13-2023, 03:17 PM)BillyONare Wrote: [ -> ] did you show him this thread?

No, I have not shown dbdr this thread. I'm a relatively hands-off anthropologist. I'll leave comments but I don't want him to get too self conscious or exposed to too many ideas he can't handle.

Also speaking of comments I owe Jack Tisson an apology. I don't think he deleted my comment anymore. I appear to have been shadowbanned out of youtube comments. I don't know when this started or if it's permanent, but I don't seem able to leave comments anymore. Results are consistent with shadowbanning. I see them as though uploaded, others can't, I can't in another browser, then they're gone. They don't show up in my own comment history. Very disappointing.
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