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T. L. guest's discovery of Blackpilled Joker may be the most important contribution to Loser Sociology yet. Unlike Dbdr, and unlike Tisson, it can easily be said that Blackpilled Joker is a man completely shattered by modernity; a guy like Dbdr, for example, may act like he is, but he's not, and it's obvious when you compare him with Joker. 

It's become somewhat of a trend for people to take the very cherry-picked "close your hearts to pity" quote and apply it arbitrarily or, more often, memetically. To your enemies, to people who want to kill you, yes sure, but to this guy, I can't. So be it if that costs me any 'Nietzschean' Lebenskraft points with anonymous figures that I don't know and will never meet, because a feeling of sadness is one of the only appropriate emotions that a White Man could have when listening to this guy. 

He has a 32 minute video "I'm a furry" explaining why he is, in fact, a furry. Make of that fact what you will, but he outright says: "If I'm going to be real here, I'm probably never going to get a woman, so I can see why I became a furry." The state of modern women is so poor in his eyes that he's just resigned himself to animated females... What if it was Asuka instead? Hmm. I'm not defending being a furry -- I think it's deranged -- but call a spade a spade and realise the common denominator where there is one. There is another video, "I love the fetishes I have" that I'd rather not speak so much on aside from the fact that it probably lends weight to the arguments from the faction of conservatards that are anti-porn, I guess... Maybe Zed can apply some of his deep Freudian psychoanalysis and tell us all about it. 

And yet, even after learning of Blackpilled Joker's fetish proclivities, I still didn't feel the deep sadness I mentioned above until I watched this video. I'll let anyone who cares about Loser Sociology watch and judge for themselves, but at the core of what he is saying (without explicitly saying it) is similar to something that I've said in the shoutbox a little while back, which was that "Trucels and non-normie STRAIGHT MEN only hate women because they actually love women more than women love themselves." The ending is quite brutal. He's completely gutted, totally dejected, and even beginning to choke up. It really just provides you with the purest expression of a totally defeated man. I don't care, you're a jew if seeing a White man arrive at such a state doesn't make you feel something in your heart.



Some time ago, I was thinking about how in the past if you wanted to die in an honourable way (excluding things like harakiri or ancient Western equivalents), you could've joined the military and at least told yourself that your death was for something other than just wanting to be done playing the game. Everyone knows about the Imperial Japanese Army in WW2. Even the peasants who rose to the call of Pope Urban 2 and his promise of salvation upon death. They surely expected to die, and very likely wanted to die. Same thing with jihadists. You can't even do this today. You aren't even guaranteed death when you join the military. Sure enough, Blackpilled Joker has a video about the military too. In short, he says it's gay and "woke" and it's not worth dying for America when the only thing America provided him was a miserable life. 



Quote:"I am an incel. I am a diehard, fully pledged blackpilled incel virgin. That's exactly who I am. I am a fully devoted, fully pledged, blackpilled incel virgin. That's just who and what I am. And if you're not a blackpilled incel virgin, why are you on my channel? [...] If you're not a doomer, if you're not a failure, if you're not a loser [...] if you're not a fuck up of society, [...] a nobody, then why are you on my channel? Why?" 

The question I'm left with is, does he even want things to change? You wouldn't think so from that quote. He took an oath, he's "fully pledged". That's a man who's accepted what he believes is the fate that this world has forced on him, and that I find very sad.

Guest

Blackpilled joker is a lolcow, a spectacle, a fool. There are many unfortunate people in this world, but how they deal with that misfortune is the most important thing about them. Eliot Rodgers had an epic warrior death. Dbdr is a melancholy unlucky guy who laughs at his own misfortune. Blackpilled Joker just looks like an idiot. Tisson talked super slow and was an idiot(but less of an idiot than blackpilled joker). Tisson might deserve your sympathy to some extent, but Blackpilled Joker doesn’t. Have better judge of character. I have to like these people to some extent, and I can’t think of any redeemable qualities about Blackpilled Joker.
Right sure. I agree, I'm not aware of any redeemable qualities of Blackpilled Joker either. It's doubtful that any exist. I guess this was the point of my conclusion. That perhaps it's fair to say that he doesn't actually want his life to improve, because such an improvement would fundamentally change who he is, and he would rather be that weak, debased joke of a man than even make an attempt at pulling himself out from the mud. He complains of not having hobbies, he complains that he masturbates 2-3 times a day to the type of pornography that I intentionally refrained from mentioning, he complains that he'll never know love. Even if he tried to change, which it's obvious that he likely will never do, it wouldn't even matter. He says so himself that he's a failure. One washes a pig only for it to immediately return to its wallowing in the mud. He wants has to be this way. 

I don't think it's fair to presume that I find him, or anyone discussed in this thread, as someone of admirable character in any way. Maybe feeling sad for Blackpilled Joker wasn't what I meant, but rather a feeling of sadness for the way things are. After all, this is sociology. And I would like to see the world improve. "... but the sorrow I feel in it has no delight for me. For although he that grieves with the unhappy should be commended for his work of love, yet he who has the power of real compassion would still prefer that there be nothing for him to grieve about."
This Blackpill Joker is fellow is an example of a guy who has nice, even features, nice coloring, can do abstract, nuanced thought, and yet has no place whatsoever in this society. Everything about society converged to make him such. Of course he's got learned helplessness. Of course he's got paraphilias. Having no economic success of any kind makes you crazy. I'm not a 'stan' of this guy, but I'm convinced that he could do better than this.
Tired as hell, neglecting the shit out of my forum, but I'll always have time for my man dbdr.




Here's something concerning.

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Look at the viewcounts here. Over 100k on one of them. And all of the comments are from other warehouse guys.

You listen to dbdr talk about his current circumstances and it's clearer every time that he's a class of person. And a large one at that. We're experiencing lost generations now. Warehouse guys are peasants with Xbox and Call of Duty. Women are a decadent aristocracy whose divine right is how oppressed they are. I bring that up because people are talking about women and race in the comments because it's so tightly and obviously connected to the job issue.

He got the Barnes & Noble job, and was being interviewed alongside middle aged guys. This for a job that pays 9 dollars an hour and cuts them off beyond full time employment hours for maximum exploitation. It sucks now for this class of guy, and it doesn't get better for most of them. The power and prestige positions in life go to ethnics and women by default. The guys in these comment sections are aspiring to become delivery drivers so that they still have somewhat working joints by 40.

I shouldn't be recapping these sentiments. This is how people are talking in dbdr comments now.

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This is not an "incel" issue. This is a "discarded people" issue. Incel was just an early flaring up of this insanely broad and serious issue.


Jack Tisson face-reveal. He had previously described himself as an "ugly viking". If anything I think that's being harsh on himself. He's not subhuman. More like how Studio Ghibli would draw the face of a somewhat friendly viking. His face has character. Complete features. Intact hair. Etc. I really have a hard time considering anybody whose face isn't a heavily receded nothing ugly but maybe that's just me.

Anyway I think it's cool that Tisson is doing more stuff. He interests me a lot. He says he deleted the old channel because he was sick of talking about look. Like me, he appreciates this issue as expanding so far beyond that. Wants to talk about how people get fucked by life in a bigger way.
(10-07-2023, 09:42 PM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]Jack Tisson face-reveal. He had previously described himself as an "ugly viking". If anything I think that's being harsh on himself. He's not subhuman. More like how Studio Ghibli would draw the face of a somewhat friendly viking.

Jethro Tull physiognomy

Guest

(10-08-2023, 01:38 AM)a system is failing Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-07-2023, 09:42 PM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]Jack Tisson face-reveal. He had previously described himself as an "ugly viking". If anything I think that's being harsh on himself. He's not subhuman. More like how Studio Ghibli would draw the face of a somewhat friendly viking.

Jethro Tull physiognomy

"He looks like Jethro Tull."
(10-07-2023, 09:42 PM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ]

Jack Tisson face-reveal. He had previously described himself as an "ugly viking". If anything I think that's being harsh on himself. He's not subhuman. More like how Studio Ghibli would draw the face of a somewhat friendly viking. His face has character. Complete features. Intact hair. Etc. I really have a hard time considering anybody whose face isn't a heavily receded nothing ugly but maybe that's just me.

Anyway I think it's cool that Tisson is doing more stuff. He interests me a lot. He says he deleted the old channel because he was sick of talking about look. Like me, he appreciates this issue as expanding so far beyond that. Wants to talk about how people get fucked by life in a bigger way.

Men are being gaslit into thinking that if they aren't 9/10 Chad at the bare minimum, they're ugly. And you know what? they end up believing this because women won't date anybody that isn't 9/10 Chad. If your modest 6-7/10 looks aren't enough to bag a decent woman in today's world, you end up thinking you're ugly. For the longest time I thought that way of myself too, I perceived myself as ugly because I saw that my looks weren't enough to get women act nice towards me. I wasn't even demanding love; I just wanted to not feel invisible or derided by the opposite sex. With time, and with enough clarity of mind provided by simply stop trying to fit into general society, I've realized that I don't look bad at all. I realize my looks are a 6/10, a 7/10 in a good day. But in the current year + 7 that means nothing. You might as well be a 2/10, that's how little difference there is in looks, everything below an 8.5/10 means you have to rely on status and being a clown to get mediocre pussy. Men have never had so low self-esteem as today. I'm also reminding the times an older women have praised my looks while the ones from my generation never say anything and treat me with disdain. I thought the older ones were just simply trying to be nice but because I saw how women of my generation treated me, I thought I was being bullshitted by the older ladies. But now I think younger women just love to put down men's looks in an attempt to convince themselves that they deserve the top male; they engage in an exercise of self-psychosis that benefits nobody.

Curiously, this only happens with fellow countrywomen; women seem to drop the façade and the shields when dealing with foreign men. When I've traveled abroad, women acted nice to me, then upon returning it's back to the shitty mindgames. I would be a virgin if I had never traveled abroad. It's funny when I see other men share a similar story on online communities - men who think of themselves as unfuckable become desired once they leave their countries for a while. It's a curious phenomenon.
anthony Wrote:This is not an "incel" issue. This is a "discarded people" issue. Incel was just an early flaring up of this insanely broad and serious issue.

I remember lurking around incel spaces circa 2019-2020 and hearing a lot about this topic. These were not blackpilled people suffering disillusionment with reality, but average looking people who knew something was wrong. At the time there was a lot of talk about demographics and the economy that was put forward in a very intelligent way. The Mouse Utopia Experiment was always a favorite source for them. One point that I remember strongly was that these incel scholars positioned Japan as the forerunner of this phenomenon. “But Japan is the ideal right?”—well they also invented the term Hikikomori. Now, I don’t mean to get into the specifics of Japan’s social problems; rather, I want to observe it through the lens of media and the rapid rise of Loser Media. Another reason I am specifically choosing Japan is because this same Loser Media is not as prevalent in America because they need to make more shows about women being whores.

What do I mean by Loser Media?—media meant to cater to losers. Loser Media has always existed to some extent in society, and I would argue it has been a good force in the improvements of many losers’ lives; it does this by not only inspiring them to improve themselves and overcome their adversities, but it also offers a path of catharsis to heal and overcome past trauma. Great examples of healthy loser media would be: Hajime no ippo, and Shijō Saikyō no Deshi Ken'ichi(they are both about losers learning martial arts and ascending loserhood). Now, why would I add the adjective healthy?—because Japan has started to mass produce very unhealthy Loser Media that shows the ever deepening nadir that loserdom is achieving; but not only is the Loser Media centered around even more pathetic losers, there has also been an increasing amount of content.

Now time for me to talk about the media I recently consumed. MUSHOKU TENSEI: ISEKAI ITTARA HONKI DASU. This was recommended in the Iseki thread and so I decided to watch it. After watching the first episode I remembered that I actually read the manga for a short while. The loser in this is a thirty-year-old neet good-for-nothing who was viciously bullied in high school and so seeks to ensconce in his room while he rots to death; his parents die and then his siblings destroy his room with a bat and throw him out into the streets where he gets run over by a truck. He has a pretty terrible life; but it gets worse even in the Iseki cheat fantasy world. He gets cucked(I can’t actually confirm this as I didn’t read the book, but I’m pretty sure this is what happened) and spends the whole second season trying to cure his ED(this was traumatic; why was this in my anime?!?).

Now for the second one; this one was Recommended by uniposter. It is about this 30-year-old virgin(He visits soaplands, but has no real relationship with a woman) who lives with his parents and works at this warehouse type job. Normal healthy Loser media should be about awkward high schoolers being bullied—not this! Now I could spend all day listing Loser Media—which I will not do—but you should just take my word for it when I say there is a lot and the total is expanding at an increasingly faster rate. But before we leave this topic I should also talk about Alice in Borderland. I have not gotten that far into it but so far I have enjoyed it. It hinges on the survival theme where the loser characters are able to gain the lost vitality they have been missing their whole lives by surviving daring odds; through simply living(surviving) they become winners who can enjoy the thrill of life to its fullest. Could survival manga be connect to this topic too?

Unfortunately, We can only get so far with Japanese Loser Media as the Japanese are different from us; so let us go back to America. An integral part of the Loser cannon in America—that was a sensation with incels—was Joker(2019).
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To keep with the established formula: Joker(2019) is about a 40-year-old virgin clown who lives with his mother. This bleak story resonated in the hearts of many a incel and loser alike; the fact that it had such a cultural effect should have been deeply worrying at the time. If movies were being catered to audiences then more joker(2019)s would be coming out. However, in the absence of this Loser Media, losers have had to look else where, such as dbdr’s videos(I also enjoy them). 

Finally, after collating the data to reach a conclusion: in both Japanese and American Loser Media we see an advancing old age, involuntary celibacy, and poverty being the popular traits of their losers. Now, if we are to understand this trend of fictional losers as indicative to a real trend of an increasing type of person, similar to the fiction losers, in society, we can then posit that the change in fictional losers is related to an actual increase of these “discarded people.” And this is no longer a loser that can reconcile with their problems, because their problems are, at their base, something entirely beyond them. There are no redos is life(unlike in Iseki manga)which leaves these losers weighed down in an inescapable position. But how would this change in consumer effect the relationship of loser with Loser Media? This is when a “problematic”(I will use that word) relation is introduced. First: seeing how the losers position in life is beyond their power there is nothing positive Loser Media can provide them; at most it can provide escapism, but any type of self improvement would only further demoralize them. Second: Being naturally attracted to Loser Media they will consume it to their own detriment, only demoralizing them further as the only real solution to their problem would be something mythical like rebirth. To restate: healthy Loser Media should cater to awkward bullied high schoolers. An awkward bullied high schooler still has some hope of gaining confidence and growing up to be a successful adult; but with the modern loser what hope does Hajima no Ippo provide? How does learning marital arts and gaining confidence help the 30-year-old virgin?—it does not. To put it simply, In dbdr’s words, “it’s over.” 

To recapitulate: not only is Loser Media on the rise(at least in Japan) but the losers in them are becoming more pathetic and hopeless; moreover, Loser Media can no longer offer hope or a source of catharsis. What does this reflect?— at its most bathetic: the mass rotting of many men whom could have lived more full and productive lives. This, as Anthony said, is a serious issue. That concludes my point; thank you for reading.

Guest

Loser media is probably the safest way to "contain" the situation for anyone in position of authority. Whether it is a willful push or not, probably not, as media companies already know that it is profitable to go deep into identification like this.

It is simply something that ends in a high suicide rate in the best case, or an increase in murder in the worst cast (assuming one wants a country to be stable etc. etc.)

Is there a solution? Short of something for these people to believe in, no. If there was some form of militia, etc. group activity like this, then romantic thoughts would not be so primary. Or if the values were simply oriented in such a way. Values are not oriented in this way, many see "love" (or whatever word/form) as the highest ideal. If I cannot get love, then God hates me (in whatever words or formulation.)

I say group activity, but it is the wrong word. The activity is secondary to the belief that "we are all going to make it" in whatever spirit captures them. That said, a spirit like this can come from nothing, purely, but whether this is a good bet or not is...

Someone asked me recently of how I did something surprising to him, I answered "hate." What I did was not hateful, violent, etc. at all, it was simply a set of habits. For me, this spirit is enough, opposition to something else that will never go away/be erased. I mention this because it is probably something that an individual needs to...do anything else other than what path is supplied to them. Some sort of spirit or current of feeling. The body requires energy.

Without, and most do go on without, I don't understand why people move. If there is no animating spirit to one's life, then it is impossible to answer "why" for anything. This is likely the state of most of these people. It will likely always be the state that is somewhat common in a populace. If they are not given a path, they will not move.

I am sure some people do give paths to people like this (whether in their communities, or corporations, etc.) But it is...difficult to against the scale of that path against these same people that runs concurrently. Sabotaged, I think you can say. If these people see down the path and see only that they will be sabotaged, placed in some far-down rung...well, that is a hopeless feeling. But I do not hope that they can change it themselves en masse, because they cannot. Even with very generative media, will they move? I do not believe they will. It is a reckoning of "what" that type of life is, and what the consequences of the age are.

With that consequence being what it is, will people still see liberty the same? Etc. And then, the great irony, is that the wrong ones might take away liberty and only accelerate the degeneration.

I do not know, because I was not there, but I imagine from what I read that animating spirits once possessed many more men than it does now, even with the population disparity. And then that is precisely the collection of individuals who require liberty, because they will take it, if it is not given. There are some who hope that art will save the day, but it does not make sense. The senses are degraded, as is natural, without any animation.

JRPGs have already fought this tide, as they tend to give you a set of characters with life, that variety of animating spirits. One can easily find a seed there. In terms of loser media: Nier Automata and associated works became popular in recent times, which is precisely the opposite. Lifeless things rationalizing.

But I believe they are already self-correcting (for profit reasons) as these types are lackluster customers.

Someone will likely have to offer material things, and then sneak the spirit in there, to solve the situation for whatever population. They do not have to honor the offer most likely, but I think the current situation requires a material offer. The other side already offers a spiritual offer "be a good person" "have a normal one" etc. That it leads one to doom is no consequence for those ascetics of the world. No, those who can be saved are greedy for love, status, power, etc.

I make a similar offer, but the path is undecided. It can go to the deepest hell or the highest heaven. Or so sadly, nowhere at all.
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(10-11-2023, 05:11 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ][Image: image.png]

This is terrible news, his videos already have lots of ''uhm, ah,uhh'' it's going to get even worse.
(10-11-2023, 05:33 AM)Virtue Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-11-2023, 05:11 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ][Image: image.png]

This is terrible news, his videos already have lots of ''uhm, ah,uhh'' it's going to get even worse.

It's over for starched frontal lobecels.
(10-11-2023, 05:11 AM)anthony Wrote: [ -> ][Image: image.png]
The more I think about this the more it saddens me.

Inkwell

The blackpill is the ultimate knowledge. All of these replies, these sneering, self-satisfied screeds are really quite ugly, because despite you lot being "intellectuals" and using all of these big words you still fail to see that at the end of the day your ideas are nothing more than knee jerk generic blackpill hatred and you are wrong.

The blackpill is supported by so much information and so many observations that it's not even funny. While there are outliers in everything and there are blackpilled chadlites who could get laid if they didn't read the BP too much no amount of anecdotes can disprove the truth of the BP.

"Oh bro he has no fire in his heart." "Oh he is too juvenile and stupid to understand the greater purpose I've found." Are you even listening to this pseudo intellectual babble?

Dbdr is a broken man who could get laid with some mediocre chick but doesn't because of a multitude of factors, most of which are not up to him to choose. What people here don't understand is that even the "Hyperborean Aryan Spirit" that gives you the grit and determination to work, "self improoove," keep trying or even find some other purpose to life is genetic as well! Not everyone gets born with the grit, and some get it beaten out of them by society because they are ugly/have a bad environment.

You can't beat human nature. Not even Hitler's perfect 1488 society can, and while it would no doubt be much better than what we have today you still would get starfish sex at most and your wife would cuck you with a better looking man than you. Hell, most of you don't realise it but you subconsciously treat people differently because of factors they can't change, like that one post where the guy says that Baaedescortcel's voice makes him hate him (JFL).

You try to come up with complicated solutions and answers that aren't even realistic because swallowing the blackpill would a) mean you're wrong and b), which is my assumption based on personal experience, that it would be too mainstream. That accepting any idea from someone else that you didn't heavily modify and that isn't very obscure would challenge both your sense of uniqueness and your belief in your intelligence.

But the blackpill will come to collect, as it does. Your only choices are to either prepare or stick your head in the sand.

Guest

No one has been disproving the existence of Blackpill, only discussing it's effects in several infortunate cases, their reasoning and why is it so apparent in recent generations, one of the points being that it implies a highly feminized thinking and most of these channels are just noise in the background for an always expanding and eager audience of losers.
(10-19-2023, 05:22 AM)Inkwell Wrote: [ -> ]You try to come up with complicated solutions and answers that aren't even realistic because swallowing the blackpill would a) mean you're wrong and b), which is my assumption based on personal experience, that it would be too mainstream. That accepting any idea from someone else that you didn't heavily modify and that isn't very obscure would challenge both your sense of uniqueness and your belief in your intelligence.

But the blackpill will come to collect, as it does. Your only choices are to either prepare or stick your head in the sand.

This is the problem with the blackpill, the people who are its proponents can't accept it. If you were truly blackpilled you wouldn't talk about it because it was cease to be an issue for you. Meaning that in spite of muh studies or whatever, you still care and can't get over the fact that you will probably die alone. The fact you can't bring yourself to stop caring means that you have to keep trying to get a girlfriend for the rest of your life no matter how fruitless it may be. I'm sorry to tell you this but that is your only option outside of suicide.
(10-19-2023, 05:22 AM)Inkwell Wrote: [ -> ]The blackpill is the ultimate knowledge. All of these replies, these sneering, self-satisfied screeds are really quite ugly, because despite you lot being "intellectuals" and using all of these big words you still fail to see that at the end of the day your ideas are nothing more than knee jerk generic blackpill hatred and you are wrong.

[...]

What people here don't understand is that even the "Hyperborean Aryan Spirit" that gives you the grit and determination to work, "self improoove," keep trying or even find some other purpose to life is genetic as well! Not everyone gets born with the grit, and some get it beaten out of them by society because they are ugly/have a bad environment.

[...]

You try to come up with complicated solutions and answers that aren't even realistic because swallowing the blackpill would a) mean you're wrong and b), which is my assumption based on personal experience, that it would be too mainstream. That accepting any idea from someone else that you didn't heavily modify and that isn't very obscure would challenge both your sense of uniqueness and your belief in your intelligence.

But the blackpill will come to collect, as it does. Your only choices are to either prepare or stick your head in the sand.

What are they still holding out for if they're already blackpilled? If the blackpill is the ultimate knowledge then why doesn't every self-proclaimed blackpiller just kill themselves immediately upon the realisation that nothing in life matters and nothing that they do will ever improve their lot in life? The fact that they don't suggests that most of these people, despite their self-proclamations, aren't even blackpilled in the proper sense as people like you believe you are using the term.

"Hyperborean Aryan Spirit" is a meme for semi-normie teenagers and people stuck in the late 2010s. The real sentiment is that there is no inherent value to being alive if you aren't willing to strive for anything beyond mere life, as it has been called. How does one "prepare" for the blackpill, as you say? How do you "prepare" to one day come to the realisation that life is meaningless? If the blackpill is ultimately the final stage of living awareness for you, then I'd argue that you were never really living beyond mere life in the first place. 

You're wrong about everyone here presenting "knee jerk generic blackpill hatred" as a result of not understanding it. In fact, I'd say that most people here understand the blackpill better than you and all the rest of the self-styled blackpillers ever will. Because people here understand that when presented with the blackpill, the real "only choices" are to either: A. kill yourself (actually swallow it), B. wallow along and accept defeat (live in a state of mere life), or C. become clearpilled.

I doubt that 'blackpillers' who think about this in the way you describe ever can or will accept this. Most want everyone to be as equally miserable as them; my presumption is that this is why such a large market for doomer/blackpilled 'content' currently exists. Of course, this is the most roastie, feminine behavior that one can engage in: if I can't be happy... then she shouldn't get to be happy either.

Inkwell

(10-19-2023, 09:07 AM)august Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2023, 05:22 AM)Inkwell Wrote: [ -> ]The blackpill is the ultimate knowledge. All of these replies, these sneering, self-satisfied screeds are really quite ugly, because despite you lot being "intellectuals" and using all of these big words you still fail to see that at the end of the day your ideas are nothing more than knee jerk generic blackpill hatred and you are wrong.

[...]

What people here don't understand is that even the "Hyperborean Aryan Spirit" that gives you the grit and determination to work, "self improoove," keep trying or even find some other purpose to life is genetic as well! Not everyone gets born with the grit, and some get it beaten out of them by society because they are ugly/have a bad environment.

[...]

You try to come up with complicated solutions and answers that aren't even realistic because swallowing the blackpill would a) mean you're wrong and b), which is my assumption based on personal experience, that it would be too mainstream. That accepting any idea from someone else that you didn't heavily modify and that isn't very obscure would challenge both your sense of uniqueness and your belief in your intelligence.

But the blackpill will come to collect, as it does. Your only choices are to either prepare or stick your head in the sand.

What are they still holding out for if they're already blackpilled? If the blackpill is the ultimate knowledge then why doesn't every self-proclaimed blackpiller just kill themselves immediately upon the realisation that nothing in life matters and nothing that they do will ever improve their lot in life? The fact that they don't suggests that most of these people, despite their self-proclamations, aren't even blackpilled in the proper sense as people like you believe you are using the term.

"Hyperborean Aryan Spirit" is a meme for semi-normie teenagers and people stuck in the late 2010s. The real sentiment is that there is no inherent value to being alive if you aren't willing to strive for anything beyond mere life, as it has been called. How does one "prepare" for the blackpill, as you say? How do you "prepare" to one day come to the realisation that life is meaningless? If the blackpill is ultimately the final stage of living awareness for you, then I'd argue that you were never really living beyond mere life in the first place. 

You're wrong about everyone here presenting "knee jerk generic blackpill hatred" as a result of not understanding it. In fact, I'd say that most people here understand the blackpill better than you and all the rest of the self-styled blackpillers ever will. Because people here understand that when presented with the blackpill, the real "only choices" are to either: A. kill yourself (actually swallow it), B. wallow along and accept defeat (live in a state of mere life), or C. become clearpilled.

I doubt that 'blackpillers' who think about this in the way you describe ever can or will accept this. Most want everyone to be as equally miserable as them; my presumption is that this is why such a large market for doomer/blackpilled 'content' currently exists. Of course, this is the most roastie, feminine behavior that one can engage in: if I can't be happy... then she shouldn't get to be happy either.

> just kill yourself bro
a) do you know how difficult it is to actually override your body keeping you alive?
b) it requires some exertion and planning, which some people are unable to do due to cowardice/sloth
c) the wallow along and accept defeat is what most blackpillers do, grasping at straws in hopes of being the one outlier instead of the ninety nine losers

again, an absolute strawman. nowhere in the blackpill does it say that you should kill yourself, it just offers realistic appraisal of your chances. see this video from the already mentioned rehab room https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwCYYbGR64 for an answer to this dumb platitude

>there is no inherent value to being alive if you aren't willing to strive for anything beyond mere life, as it has been called
Oh bro, just invent your own meaning bro, it's that easy. Better yet, wade through the gorillion other meanings other people have made for you. Unless you are an absolute genetic outcast sperg you will need to meet the need for love before you can start striving for anything more complicated, lmao. Why do you think self improvement copers self improve? Why do you think people like dbdr watch video games, and why many people watch sappy romance tranime? One way or the other you have to fulfill your need for the intense form of social approval that is love, and denying it to yourself/trying to cope it away will simply result in depression and issues. Of course, if you are unlucky genetic refuse you will have to cope or just live on because you can't kill yourself (most people can't) but you will bite the bullet or eventually get laid

>You're wrong about everyone here presenting "knee jerk generic blackpill hatred" as a result of not understanding it. In fact, I'd say that most people here understand the blackpill better than you and all the rest of the self-styled blackpillers ever will.
Your entire schtick is trying to find a solution. You still haven't figured it out, have you? You are trying to solve a situation that is caused by genetics. You are trying to react to the blackpill. The blackpill however is simply an additional set of knowledge for you to use. It's like when you learn that you shouldn't touch a hot stove as a child. The blackpill simply tells you the truth, and what you do with it is up to you - most people would benefit from it actually, because it would give them an idea of what to do and what not to do.

>Because people here understand that when presented with the blackpill, the real "only choices" are to either:
There is no choice you are forced to make, retard. You can keep living the same way, but after the blackpill that will make you feel bad because you will see what you're doing wrong. But you aren't immediately forced to kys/find a hyperuber cope because LE LOGIC DICTATES I SHOULD DO IT, i suppose to fit it into your three choices it would be choice B that most people go with, but that isn't a conscious choice

>Most want everyone to be as equally miserable as them; my presumption is that this is why such a large market for doomer/blackpilled 'content' currently exists. Of course, this is the most roastie, feminine behavior that one can engage in: if I can't be happy... then she shouldn't get to be happy either.
Nah nigga lmao i just want to be chad or get laid, which is not impossible for most people, it's just that I'll have to betabuxx or do some other alternate mating strategy for it.
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