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(10-19-2023, 02:04 PM)Inkwell Wrote: [ -> ]> just kill yourself bro
a) do you know how difficult it is to actually override your body keeping you alive?
b) it requires some exertion and planning, which some people are unable to do due to cowardice/sloth
c) the wallow along and accept defeat is what most blackpillers do, grasping at straws in hopes of being the one outlier instead of the ninety nine losers

again, an absolute strawman. nowhere in the blackpill does it say that you should kill yourself, it just offers realistic appraisal of your chances. see this video from the already mentioned rehab room https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwCYYbGR64 for an answer to this dumb platitude

>there is no inherent value to being alive if you aren't willing to strive for anything beyond mere life, as it has been called
Oh bro, just invent your own meaning bro, it's that easy. Better yet, wade through the gorillion other meanings other people have made for you. Unless you are an absolute genetic outcast sperg you will need to meet the need for love before you can start striving for anything more complicated, lmao. Why do you think self improvement copers self improve? Why do you think people like dbdr watch video games, and why many people watch sappy romance tranime? One way or the other you have to fulfill your need for the intense form of social approval that is love, and denying it to yourself/trying to cope it away will simply result in depression and issues. Of course, if you are unlucky genetic refuse you will have to cope or just live on because you can't kill yourself (most people can't) but you will bite the bullet or eventually get laid

>You're wrong about everyone here presenting "knee jerk generic blackpill hatred" as a result of not understanding it. In fact, I'd say that most people here understand the blackpill better than you and all the rest of the self-styled blackpillers ever will.
Your entire schtick is trying to find a solution. You still haven't figured it out, have you? You are trying to solve a situation that is caused by genetics. You are trying to react to the blackpill. The blackpill however is simply an additional set of knowledge for you to use. It's like when you learn that you shouldn't touch a hot stove as a child. The blackpill simply tells you the truth, and what you do with it is up to you - most people would benefit from it actually, because it would give them an idea of what to do and what not to do.

>Because people here understand that when presented with the blackpill, the real "only choices" are to either:
There is no choice you are forced to make, retard. You can keep living the same way, but after the blackpill that will make you feel bad because you will see what you're doing wrong. But you aren't immediately forced to kys/find a hyperuber cope because LE LOGIC DICTATES I SHOULD DO IT, i suppose to fit it into your three choices it would be choice B that most people go with, but that isn't a conscious choice

>Most want everyone to be as equally miserable as them; my presumption is that this is why such a large market for doomer/blackpilled 'content' currently exists. Of course, this is the most roastie, feminine behavior that one can engage in: if I can't be happy... then she shouldn't get to be happy either.
Nah nigga lmao i just want to be chad or get laid, which is not impossible for most people, it's just that I'll have to betabuxx or do some other alternate mating strategy for it.

Your anger proves you haven't accepted it because you still feel it should be some other way. When someone says your only other option is suicide, it isn't a choice, you will kill yourself or you will keep trying to find a girlfriend fruitlessly forever. At the very least you will spend the majority of your time thinking about girls. Stay alive to spite me if you want I don't care.
Like what you're basically saying here is "yes I will keep trying to get laid for the rest of my life but I'm not going to be happy about it"

Guest

(10-19-2023, 02:12 PM)Ricky23 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2023, 02:04 PM)Inkwell Wrote: [ -> ]> just kill yourself bro
a) do you know how difficult it is to actually override your body keeping you alive?
b) it requires some exertion and planning, which some people are unable to do due to cowardice/sloth
c) the wallow along and accept defeat is what most blackpillers do, grasping at straws in hopes of being the one outlier instead of the ninety nine losers

again, an absolute strawman. nowhere in the blackpill does it say that you should kill yourself, it just offers realistic appraisal of your chances. see this video from the already mentioned rehab room https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwCYYbGR64 for an answer to this dumb platitude

>there is no inherent value to being alive if you aren't willing to strive for anything beyond mere life, as it has been called
Oh bro, just invent your own meaning bro, it's that easy. Better yet, wade through the gorillion other meanings other people have made for you. Unless you are an absolute genetic outcast sperg you will need to meet the need for love before you can start striving for anything more complicated, lmao. Why do you think self improvement copers self improve? Why do you think people like dbdr watch video games, and why many people watch sappy romance tranime? One way or the other you have to fulfill your need for the intense form of social approval that is love, and denying it to yourself/trying to cope it away will simply result in depression and issues. Of course, if you are unlucky genetic refuse you will have to cope or just live on because you can't kill yourself (most people can't) but you will bite the bullet or eventually get laid

>You're wrong about everyone here presenting "knee jerk generic blackpill hatred" as a result of not understanding it. In fact, I'd say that most people here understand the blackpill better than you and all the rest of the self-styled blackpillers ever will.
Your entire schtick is trying to find a solution. You still haven't figured it out, have you? You are trying to solve a situation that is caused by genetics. You are trying to react to the blackpill. The blackpill however is simply an additional set of knowledge for you to use. It's like when you learn that you shouldn't touch a hot stove as a child. The blackpill simply tells you the truth, and what you do with it is up to you - most people would benefit from it actually, because it would give them an idea of what to do and what not to do.

>Because people here understand that when presented with the blackpill, the real "only choices" are to either:
There is no choice you are forced to make, retard. You can keep living the same way, but after the blackpill that will make you feel bad because you will see what you're doing wrong. But you aren't immediately forced to kys/find a hyperuber cope because LE LOGIC DICTATES I SHOULD DO IT, i suppose to fit it into your three choices it would be choice B that most people go with, but that isn't a conscious choice

>Most want everyone to be as equally miserable as them; my presumption is that this is why such a large market for doomer/blackpilled 'content' currently exists. Of course, this is the most roastie, feminine behavior that one can engage in: if I can't be happy... then she shouldn't get to be happy either.
Nah nigga lmao i just want to be chad or get laid, which is not impossible for most people, it's just that I'll have to betabuxx or do some other alternate mating strategy for it.

Your anger proves you haven't accepted it because you still feel it should be some other way. When someone says your only other option is suicide, it isn't a choice, you will kill yourself or you will keep trying to find a girlfriend fruitlessly forever. At the very least you will spend the majority of your time thinking about girls. Stay alive to spite me if you want I don't care.
Like what you're basically saying here is "yes I will keep trying to get laid for the rest of my life but I'm not going to be happy about it"

yeah alrighty and is there a different way to do it? i'm too weak to supress it so i might as well fuck whores for money and try to get bitches until i die lol, i guarantee you that your ascetic faggot lifestyle cope won't make you any happier
>your only option is suicide
again, blackpill never says this. it only shows a realistic picture of what you can and cannot do

Guest

Why do i always find these bitchy reasonings whenever i find a blackpiller? you guys are truly the prey of everysingle factor imaginable (genes, raising, parents, being a loser in school, being a nobody today, being a nobody in their jobs, not having a job, being high inhib, etc.) to a point you don't really have any agency over your lives, painting a really meek, bitter, and passive existence.
That reminded me of a comment in one of DBDR's videos about their parents, i pointed out how they could never thought to rebel or question things about their parents even once as part of any healthy young impulse, but one guy really turned defensive saying things like "Yeah just rebel/question your parents bro", It's really a puzzling victim mentality.
The longer you bitch, the longer you will suffer regardless.
(10-19-2023, 02:31 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]yeah alrighty and is there a different way to do it? i'm too weak to supress it so i might as well fuck whores for money and try to get bitches until i die lol, i guarantee you that your ascetic faggot lifestyle cope won't make you any happier
>your only option is suicide
again, blackpill never says this. it only shows a realistic picture of what you can and cannot do
1)I'm not an ascetic
2)I don't care if you fuck whores. What does that have to do with me?
3)I say your only option is suicide because that is the only alternative to your misery seeing as you can't accept the blackpill and will still persue girls while you're alive.
4)You aren't a blackpiller because you think that things ought to be some other way, which as far as I'm concerned you have no reason to believe.

Guest

(10-19-2023, 02:43 PM)Ricky23 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2023, 02:31 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]yeah alrighty and is there a different way to do it? i'm too weak to supress it so i might as well fuck whores for money and try to get bitches until i die lol, i guarantee you that your ascetic faggot lifestyle cope won't make you any happier
>your only option is suicide
again, blackpill never says this. it only shows a realistic picture of what you can and cannot do
1)I'm not an ascetic
2)I don't care if you fuck whores. What does that have to do with me?
3)I say your only option is suicide because that is the only alternative to your misery seeing as you can't accept the blackpill and will still persue girls while you're alive.
4)You aren't a blackpiller because you think that things ought to be some other way, which as far as I'm concerned you have no reason to believe.
1) you are either a sperg or a faggot (aceggotry included) if you can actually live without bitches. unless you are one or more of the two you're just a coping ascetic
2) accepting the blackpill =/= refraining from pursuing bitches lmao again all these assumptions are like talking to a rock. the blackpill just tells you what your odds are
3) holy nothingburger of a sentence faggot, YOU ARENT LE BLACKPILLER BECAUSE YOU JUST ARENT lol not my problem that you have the image that a 90iq normnigger would have when thinking of the blackpill
(10-19-2023, 03:01 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) you are either a sperg or a faggot (aceggotry included) if you can actually live without bitches. unless you are one or more of the two you're just a coping ascetic
2) accepting the blackpill =/= refraining from pursuing bitches lmao again all these assumptions are like talking to a rock. the blackpill just tells you what your odds are
3) holy nothingburger of a sentence faggot, YOU ARENT LE BLACKPILLER BECAUSE YOU JUST ARENT lol not my problem that you have the image that a 90iq normnigger would have when thinking of the blackpill
1)My sex life is irrelevant to this discussion and I don't accept that it is impossible to live without bitches.  
2)If you accept the blackpill ie you come to the conclusion that you will never have sex without paying for it then it is illogical to waste your time trying, therefore you haven't accepted it or you are acting illogically. 
3)What is your motive for trying to convince me to be miserable? I don't understand.

Guest

I think the blackpill is correct.

Blackpill: there are some guys who are doomed because they aren't the sort of person equipped to save themselves.

Gigachad should not consume the blackpill.
This blackpill stuff is mostly about self-pity. If you truly believe there is no way for you to be happy without love, and you have no aspirations to change yourself or the world, what valid reason is there to communicate this information to others? The reality is that you have some limited ability to choose to be happy and improve the world around you, although it may not be as much as you would like or deserve. All of the social observations you've made are accurate, but your emotional conclusion and desire to spread your misery are irrational. Accepting that doesn't make it so easy to wallow in pity though, does it?

Guest

(10-19-2023, 05:16 PM)Ricky23 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-19-2023, 03:01 PM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) you are either a sperg or a faggot (aceggotry included) if you can actually live without bitches. unless you are one or more of the two you're just a coping ascetic
2) accepting the blackpill =/= refraining from pursuing bitches lmao again all these assumptions are like talking to a rock. the blackpill just tells you what your odds are
3) holy nothingburger of a sentence faggot, YOU ARENT LE BLACKPILLER BECAUSE YOU JUST ARENT lol not my problem that you have the image that a 90iq normnigger would have when thinking of the blackpill
1)My sex life is irrelevant to this discussion and I don't accept that it is impossible to live without bitches.  
2)If you accept the blackpill ie you come to the conclusion that you will never have sex without paying for it then it is illogical to waste your time trying, therefore you haven't accepted it or you are acting illogically. 
3)What is your motive for trying to convince me to be miserable? I don't understand.
1) Unless you are a faggot or a sperg it is indeed impossible to live without bitches
2) No, that's not what the blackpill is. Even if it were, I don't owe anybody me acting logically, I can be illogical all I want. The blackpill is simply knowledge regarding human behavior.
3) My motive is for you to stop coping, come down from nigger heaven and understand the blackpill which will actually benefit you in the long run
(10-20-2023, 12:26 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) Unless you are a faggot or a sperg it is indeed impossible to live without bitches
2) No, that's not what the blackpill is. Even if it were, I don't owe anybody me acting logically, I can be illogical all I want. The blackpill is simply knowledge regarding human behavior.
3) My motive is for you to stop coping, come down from nigger heaven and understand the blackpill which will actually benefit you in the long run

1) This is an assertion without evidence. There is a purpose to life other than reproduction, this is oberservable in the behaviour all animals including yourself.
2)The conclusion you have come to and are trying to get me to come to (presumably based on the blackpill) is that I will never get laid without paying for it therefore the specifics of your ideology are irrelevant because I already addressed the thesis of your beliefs.
3)How will this benefit me, especially when the only possible way it will benefit is if I come to the conclusion that I should stop trying to get pussy, which you seem to believe is impossible anyway.

sneediefeedie

Why do you guys care so much about blackpills and incel shit when you realize that women are smaller and weaker than you right? You can just do this thing that my friend invented called "rape", which most human males used as a way of reproducing for literally millions of years. It doesn't matter that you're norwooding or non bone smashed when you can just push them over and fuck them in the mouth and ass and there's nothing they can do about it.

>b-but i'll be arrested by the state and thrown in jail and get raped by bubba and tyrone!
The state (which is the slavemaster that occupied legitimate governments around 100 years ago) is illegitimate and hates men and white people. In order to practice the completely healthy thing our ancestors did to reproduce, we have to first overthrow the evil zionist slave drivers that run our governments.

>b-but im ugly and short!! she'll just leave me for another man!!!
Rape literally causes them to love you. It's just biology. Move to Tajikistan or some shit if you're worried about this.

Incel shit is only something they debate about in enslaved countries. Free men don't worry about that shit, because it's all made up to demoralize you from putting a bullet into the head of the 450 lb jew that runs your government and wants you to become a funko pop consuming tranny eunuch.

Guest

new guest
1) getting pussy is the only thing, it is the most important thing
2) ???
3) stop trying to get pussy because it is impossible or whatever even though I don't know you
(10-20-2023, 10:07 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]new guest
1) getting pussy is the only thing, it is the most important thing
2) ???
3) stop trying to get pussy because it is impossible or whatever even though I don't know you

1) If getting pussy was the only thing in life you wouldn't waste time trying to convince me of it because it doesn't aid you in getting pussy. Otherwise it would seem you have other interests than getting pussy which implies that there are other things worth pursuing in life.
2) The blackpill formula applied to your life = you will never get pussy in your life because you are ugly, short, etc. You can say "well no we're only talking about the behavior of women and evolutionary psychology and how that relates to the sexual marketplace" or whatever, but none of that is the "hard pill to swallow" that you were making it out to be in your initial post. The "hard pill to swallow" is accepting that you will never get laid. That's the conclusion you want me to take away from the blackpill no?
3) You didn't answer the question of how this is supposed to benefit me, likely because it isn't. And for the record I'm not trying to give your prescriptions for your life I don't care about that.


For the record I am willing to continue having this argument for the rest of my life if needs be but I would appreciate it if you stopped treading over the same ground and intentionally misunderstanding me

Guest

ricky you are good poster my post was meant to humorously exaggerate the contradictions between 1) and 3).

Guest

(10-20-2023, 06:23 AM)Ricky23 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2023, 12:26 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) Unless you are a faggot or a sperg it is indeed impossible to live without bitches
2) No, that's not what the blackpill is. Even if it were, I don't owe anybody me acting logically, I can be illogical all I want. The blackpill is simply knowledge regarding human behavior.
3) My motive is for you to stop coping, come down from nigger heaven and understand the blackpill which will actually benefit you in the long run

1) This is an assertion without evidence. There is a purpose to life other than reproduction, this is oberservable in the behaviour all animals including yourself.
2)The conclusion you have come to and are trying to get me to come to (presumably based on the blackpill) is that I will never get laid without paying for it therefore the specifics of your ideology are irrelevant because I already addressed the thesis of your beliefs.
3)How will this benefit me, especially when the only possible way it will benefit is if I come to the conclusion that I should stop trying to get pussy, which you seem to believe is impossible anyway.

1) >purpose to life other than reproduction
there is no other. look at animals. their entire lives revolve around this priority hierarchy:
survive -> reproduce -> create better environmental conditions for offspring/self
2+3) Lmao are you retarded, nigga? What the fuck is wrong with your reasoning? All I'm telling you is that you should stop shitting on the blackpill and trying to be this smug philosopher type, and instead accept it. Accept it because it will give you great insight into everything that's going on in the world, and for example tell you that you probably shouldn't pursue mrs. 10/10 Stacy McBreedable and you definitely shouldn't send her your life savings
you have this retarded idea that the blackpill = stop trying to get pussy, lmao. even eggman could get laid, there's just a difference between how the world treats you and what your chance is with women (this is why all he got was some BPD poon and no long term shit whatsoever.)

Guest

(10-20-2023, 09:55 AM)sneediefeedie Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you guys care so much about blackpills and incel shit when you realize that women are smaller and weaker than you right? You can just do this thing that my friend invented called "rape", which most human males used as a way of reproducing for literally millions of years. It doesn't matter that you're norwooding or non bone smashed when you can just push them over and fuck them in the mouth and ass and there's nothing they can do about it.

>b-but i'll be arrested by the state and thrown in jail and get raped by bubba and tyrone!
The state (which is the slavemaster that occupied legitimate governments around 100 years ago) is illegitimate and hates men and white people. In order to practice the completely healthy thing our ancestors did to reproduce, we have to first overthrow the evil zionist slave drivers that run our governments.

>b-but im ugly and short!! she'll just leave me for another man!!!
Rape literally causes them to love you. It's just biology. Move to Tajikistan or some shit if you're worried about this.

Incel shit is only something they debate about in enslaved countries. Free men don't worry about that shit, because it's all made up to demoralize you from putting a bullet into the head of the 450 lb jew that runs your government and wants you to become a funko pop consuming tranny eunuch.

while this is true the moment the raping starts you will get manhandled and beheaded by Vladimir "7'0" Decapitatovich who will proceed to rape all the other bitches and create a harem. There's no society where a genetically dogshit male wins over a genetically good male, unless you have a military advantage - good luck getting that as a shit looking man lmao.

Guest

(10-20-2023, 10:07 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]new guest
1) getting pussy is the only thing, it is the most important thing
2) ???
3) stop trying to get pussy because it is impossible or whatever even though I don't know you

holy mother of all things that I haven't said
(10-21-2023, 06:15 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) >purpose to life other than reproduction
there is no other. look at animals. their entire lives revolve around this priority hierarchy:
survive -> reproduce -> create better environmental conditions for offspring/self
2+3) Lmao are you retarded, nigga? What the fuck is wrong with your reasoning? All I'm telling you is that you should stop shitting on the blackpill and trying to be this smug philosopher type, and instead accept it. Accept it because it will give you great insight into everything that's going on in the world, and for example tell you that you probably shouldn't pursue mrs. 10/10 Stacy McBreedable and you definitely shouldn't send her your life savings
you have this retarded idea that the blackpill = stop trying to get pussy, lmao. even eggman could get laid, there's just a difference between how the world treats you and what your chance is with women (this is why all he got was some BPD poon and no long term shit whatsoever.)

1) You didn't address my first point and I'm not going to repeat it here. 
2) The is a blatant motte-and-bailey, most of the blackpill premises are uncontroversial, what's controversial is the despair and bitterness that is associated with it, and that despair and bitterness comes from the conclusion that due to your looks you can't find love.

Guest

(10-21-2023, 06:17 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2023, 09:55 AM)sneediefeedie Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you guys care so much about blackpills and incel shit when you realize that women are smaller and weaker than you right? You can just do this thing that my friend invented called "rape", which most human males used as a way of reproducing for literally millions of years. It doesn't matter that you're norwooding or non bone smashed when you can just push them over and fuck them in the mouth and ass and there's nothing they can do about it.

>b-but i'll be arrested by the state and thrown in jail and get raped by bubba and tyrone!
The state (which is the slavemaster that occupied legitimate governments around 100 years ago) is illegitimate and hates men and white people. In order to practice the completely healthy thing our ancestors did to reproduce, we have to first overthrow the evil zionist slave drivers that run our governments.

>b-but im ugly and short!! she'll just leave me for another man!!!
Rape literally causes them to love you. It's just biology. Move to Tajikistan or some shit if you're worried about this.

Incel shit is only something they debate about in enslaved countries. Free men don't worry about that shit, because it's all made up to demoralize you from putting a bullet into the head of the 450 lb jew that runs your government and wants you to become a funko pop consuming tranny eunuch.

while this is true the moment the raping starts you will get manhandled and beheaded by Vladimir "7'0" Decapitatovich who will proceed to rape all the other bitches and create a harem. There's no society where a genetically dogshit male wins over a genetically good male, unless you have a military advantage - good luck getting that as a shit looking man lmao.

Last time I checked a guy who's 7'2, runs 50 mph, and can chew through a femur still gets clapped by 7.62 x 51. Also, as you implied, slavs are bigger and stronger than white people which is why they managed to conquer them and force them to worship the aryan sky father instead of whatever fat bitch poop idol they were worshiping prior. And I also believe that slavs were one of the first cultures to invent patriarchy. Yet slav birth rates are incredibly low and they're still getting dabbed on by 5'3 Ashkenazi midgets that wear high heels and do stripper dances on TV.

Guest

(10-21-2023, 06:15 AM)Guest Wrote: [ -> ]1) >purpose to life other than reproduction
there is no other. look at animals. their entire lives revolve around this priority hierarchy:
survive -> reproduce -> create better environmental conditions for offspring/self
this is a take exposing deep spiritual retardation. my advice is to stare at colors and textures for minutes at a time without shifting the position of eyes. Everything, even life, is in thrall to the boundless
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